Media, fans, opponents &#8212; was BYU considered a P5-level opponent in 2004?

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Apr 8, 2020
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Media, fans, opponents — was BYU considered a P5-level opponent in 2004?

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ataylor

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RE: Kaifusi going to Utah

TADOW

4/8/20 2:28pm

#extendKalani

mulletino

4/8/20 2:29pm

He’s not going to turn anything around

PortlandCoug

4/8/20 2:32pm

Crowton at least had a 12 win season. He also faced legit top 15 schedules 03-04

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 2:35pm

Program was in a very different place then than it is now.

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 2:44pm

SOS on average was tougher in the MW. Last guy faced the same challenges and

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 2:47pm

Program was healthier — both internally and externally — in 2015 than in 2004.

ataylor

4/8/20 2:55pm

Not externally. Not even close.

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 3:03pm

Perception of the program was better in 2015 than 2004 and BYU has played weaker

ataylor

4/8/20 3:09pm

Whose perception?

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 3:17pm

Media, fans, opponents — was BYU considered a P5-level opponent in 2004?

ataylor

4/8/20 3:19pm

Yes, I think BYU was considered a P5 quality team then.

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 3:32pm

That's fair. I just think when you look at both internal culture and external

ataylor

4/8/20 3:39pm

We had legit top 50 recruits (Ofa, Olson) signing with us

5150man

4/8/20 3:23pm

That's fair. It's also one aspect. I think overall the program was healthier in

ataylor

4/8/20 3:40pm

I’m on the #bringcrowtonback train

Heath Squashwell

4/8/20 2:47pm

Almost unimaginable how quickly the bar was lowered.

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 2:33pm

Did Kyle take him mainly as a jab at BYU?

mudpupper

4/8/20 2:36pm

Absolutely! All about the last name.

Soupie

4/8/20 2:51pm

Kalani was brought it because

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 2:40pm

'17, '18, '19 results = 112, 63, 67. The WORST 3 year stretch in the modern era.

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 2:51pm

LOL!

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 2:59pm

Literally hasn't been a worse stretch for BYU football in the last 4 decades.

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 3:09pm

I agree that using BYU since 1972

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 3:13pm

Is the landscape of BYU 2016–2019 vastly different than that of BYU 2012-2015?

ataylor

4/8/20 3:16pm

Not vastly like the difference of what it was the decade before 2012

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 3:24pm

Why did Bronco average over 9 wins and a 33 finish for over a decade if it isn't

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 3:20pm

The final record of '19 wasn't the surprise. It was who those wins & losses were against. That made it so

Soupie

4/8/20 3:22pm

Winning 7 games is a very low bar at BYU compared to our norm.

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 3:31pm

Excellent observation

Brigham

4/8/20 3:42pm

The answer

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 3:30pm

69.5 average finish/130 FBS teams doesn't cut it. I get things may be harder but

Mr. Scoobs

4/8/20 3:35pm

I don't think my opinion

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 3:45pm

Again, Tom told Bronco his contract would not be renewed.

coolblue

4/8/20 5:56pm

As things currently stand, I feel very little hope for the future of the program

che flaco

4/8/20 2:47pm

Many of our athletes are polys. Can’t keep all players happy with school,

PortlandBlue

4/8/20 2:48pm

What trajectory do you see that you like?

Goatnapper'96

4/8/20 2:53pm

Sometimes the problem is the HC and not the HC.

TheLost

4/8/20 2:49pm

One is a constant. The other is a variable. Hmmm.

Gerald-DeGroot

4/8/20 2:55pm

It ain’t gonna happen. Someone yesterday posted that past failure is NOT an

Gerald-DeGroot

4/8/20 2:53pm

I like KS, but it's hard to see this as positive. If a kid goes to a G5 FCS

Hoss Bonaventure

4/8/20 3:15pm

there is a 3rd reason.

TheLost

4/8/20 3:17pm

right. ugh.

Hoss Bonaventure

4/8/20 3:47pm

Is he a schollie guy there or not?

puntersarepeople

4/8/20 3:47pm

RE: Is he a schollie guy there or not?

TheLost

4/8/20 3:56pm

Eye roll* we better freaking beat them.

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

4/8/20 3:58pm

We're not playing them.

ochobeeguy

4/8/20 4:18pm

The hand wringing is silly - c'mon people

FiveTen-BuckEighty

4/8/20 5:47pm

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