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Apr 8, 2020
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Goatnapper'96
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Yes, I think BYU was considered a P5 quality team then.
In fact BYU got better scheduling deals with big programs then then it did now. I think all but Notre Dame were H-H deals.
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RE: Kaifusi going to Utah
TADOW
4/8/20 2:28pm
#extendKalani
mulletino
4/8/20 2:29pm
He’s not going to turn anything around
PortlandCoug
4/8/20 2:32pm
Crowton at least had a 12 win season. He also faced legit top 15 schedules 03-04
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 2:35pm
Program was in a very different place then than it is now.
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 2:44pm
SOS on average was tougher in the MW. Last guy faced the same challenges and
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 2:47pm
Program was healthier — both internally and externally — in 2015 than in 2004.
ataylor
4/8/20 2:55pm
Not externally. Not even close.
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 3:03pm
Perception of the program was better in 2015 than 2004 and BYU has played weaker
ataylor
4/8/20 3:09pm
Whose perception?
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 3:17pm
Media, fans, opponents — was BYU considered a P5-level opponent in 2004?
ataylor
4/8/20 3:19pm
Yes, I think BYU was considered a P5 quality team then.
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 3:32pm
That's fair. I just think when you look at both internal culture and external
ataylor
4/8/20 3:39pm
We had legit top 50 recruits (Ofa, Olson) signing with us
5150man
4/8/20 3:23pm
That's fair. It's also one aspect. I think overall the program was healthier in
ataylor
4/8/20 3:40pm
I’m on the #bringcrowtonback train
Heath Squashwell
4/8/20 2:47pm
Almost unimaginable how quickly the bar was lowered.
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 2:33pm
Did Kyle take him mainly as a jab at BYU?
mudpupper
4/8/20 2:36pm
Absolutely! All about the last name.
Soupie
4/8/20 2:51pm
Kalani was brought it because
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 2:40pm
'17, '18, '19 results = 112, 63, 67. The WORST 3 year stretch in the modern era.
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 2:51pm
LOL!
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 2:59pm
Literally hasn't been a worse stretch for BYU football in the last 4 decades.
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 3:09pm
I agree that using BYU since 1972
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 3:13pm
Is the landscape of BYU 2016–2019 vastly different than that of BYU 2012-2015?
ataylor
4/8/20 3:16pm
Not vastly like the difference of what it was the decade before 2012
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 3:24pm
Why did Bronco average over 9 wins and a 33 finish for over a decade if it isn't
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 3:20pm
The final record of '19 wasn't the surprise. It was who those wins & losses were against. That made it so
Soupie
4/8/20 3:22pm
Winning 7 games is a very low bar at BYU compared to our norm.
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 3:31pm
Excellent observation
Brigham
4/8/20 3:42pm
The answer
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 3:30pm
69.5 average finish/130 FBS teams doesn't cut it. I get things may be harder but
Mr. Scoobs
4/8/20 3:35pm
I don't think my opinion
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 3:45pm
Again, Tom told Bronco his contract would not be renewed.
coolblue
4/8/20 5:56pm
As things currently stand, I feel very little hope for the future of the program
che flaco
4/8/20 2:47pm
Many of our athletes are polys. Can’t keep all players happy with school,
PortlandBlue
4/8/20 2:48pm
What trajectory do you see that you like?
Goatnapper'96
4/8/20 2:53pm
Sometimes the problem is the HC and not the HC.
TheLost
4/8/20 2:49pm
One is a constant. The other is a variable. Hmmm.
Gerald-DeGroot
4/8/20 2:55pm
It ain’t gonna happen. Someone yesterday posted that past failure is NOT an
Gerald-DeGroot
4/8/20 2:53pm
I like KS, but it's hard to see this as positive. If a kid goes to a G5 FCS
Hoss Bonaventure
4/8/20 3:15pm
there is a 3rd reason.
TheLost
4/8/20 3:17pm
right. ugh.
Hoss Bonaventure
4/8/20 3:47pm
Is he a schollie guy there or not?
puntersarepeople
4/8/20 3:47pm
RE: Is he a schollie guy there or not?
TheLost
4/8/20 3:56pm
Eye roll* we better freaking beat them.
TRUE_BLUE_COUGY
4/8/20 3:58pm
We're not playing them.
ochobeeguy
4/8/20 4:18pm
The hand wringing is silly - c'mon people
FiveTen-BuckEighty
4/8/20 5:47pm
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