Exactly. So many are losing sight of the ultimate goal.

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Aug 2, 2021
2:50:18pm

CaliWG Truly Addicted User

Exactly. So many are losing sight of the ultimate goal.

An immediate money grab does little for your long term viability. The last thing you want is a power struggle between the B12 & AAC in 4 years. Taking a little less money and building up a few G5 programs now cements your future. And if UCF or Houston become legit national players, the value of your next TV deal increases significantly.

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Crazy thought: BIG12 should expand NOW to 16 teams

BruceBruce

8/2/21 12:59pm

You take 2-4 so you're not responsible for kicking UT or OU out

2FarGone

8/2/21 1:02pm

I dont understand how adding 6 teams now would be kicking TXOU out

BruceBruce

8/2/21 1:05pm

Isn't there something in the contract with espn that new members added would be

8/2/21 2:12pm

Very short sighted. I’m sure it will work out for the Big East… I mean Big12

Bobmarleyjr

8/2/21 4:51pm

Hmmm...you might have something here. If Texas and Oklahoma took

Refugee

8/2/21 1:03pm

RE: Hmmm...you might have something here. If Texas and Oklahoma took

BruceBruce

8/2/21 1:06pm

It is a crazy thought

I'mBatman

8/2/21 1:05pm

Big 12 should go West and prepare to scoop up whatever else is left of the P12

8/2/21 1:11pm

So are you all thinking the BIG12 implodes before the GOR expire?

BruceBruce

8/2/21 1:16pm

BYU , CSU, San Diego ST. , UNLV, Cincinnati, UCF,

kahuna

8/2/21 1:24pm

I like this as well

BruceBruce

8/2/21 1:25pm

Yes! I've been saying for years that the Toreros should be promoted to FBS!

WhyaskY?

8/2/21 1:43pm

Absolutely no on SDU, CSU, UNLV; it's about eyeballs and reputation

krindorr

8/2/21 2:11pm

Fair point

kahuna

8/2/21 2:17pm

UNLV offers a growing media market, an NFL stadium, and a sure win.

HenderCoug

8/2/21 2:42pm

Over the last 4 years, UNLV has 2.3M viewers combined; UCF has 6 games with more

krindorr

8/2/21 2:48pm

You're wrong on the 'no investment in football' part though.

ManicBlue

8/2/21 5:15pm

Thanks for the heads up; missed that. Overall point stands

krindorr

8/2/21 6:20pm

Short term for sure but trend for them is definitely upward and they have a

ManicBlue

8/2/21 7:02pm

Yeah, but it's a LOT of growth required

krindorr

8/2/21 7:04pm

I think they'd get much better faster than Kansas will. Just saying.

ManicBlue

8/2/21 8:15pm

I've been in Vegas for 27 years, and UNLV has never given me anything to cheer

HenderCoug

8/3/21 9:39am

Yup ... they've always had crappy facilities far from campus for football but

ManicBlue

8/3/21 12:19pm

Just look at how dominant Temple and Tennessee St have while sharing NFL stadium

krindorr

8/3/21 12:34pm

Different situations altogether and if you can't see that, nothing I say will

ManicBlue

8/3/21 12:50pm

It's certainly an upgrade for UNLV, no doubt and they should welcome it

krindorr

8/3/21 1:01pm

RE: It's certainly an upgrade for UNLV, no doubt and they should welcome it

ManicBlue

8/3/21 3:13pm

SDSU & UNLV would likely have to be after this initial round

CaliWG

8/2/21 2:55pm

I would add four--BYU, Cinci, UCF and Houston--and call it good.

Jay Kay

8/2/21 1:29pm

If the Big 12 does try and rebuild, this is really the only one that makes sense

Gorum the Old

8/2/21 2:33pm

This is the minimum the B12 needs to add now

CaliWG

8/2/21 2:45pm

If we get in I hope I hope Boise does too

8/2/21 1:33pm

So that they will be the only P5 with a school ranked 300+ academically?

Bobmarleyjr

8/2/21 4:53pm

Add BYU, Houston, Cincy and UCF.

Doogal McCougar

8/2/21 1:45pm

Good idea. Too bad B12 are reactive leaders with poor foresight. It'll kill them

Forzaitalia

8/2/21 2:11pm

Why - none of those teams are going to bring in more money?

BYU Fan

8/2/21 2:11pm

I would add BYU, Houston, UCF along with BSU (FB only) and Gonzaga (all but FB).

BYUHgrad

8/2/21 2:14pm

Football only is basically saying they’re good but not good enough.

Bobmarleyjr

8/2/21 4:54pm

You can't expand NOW as you suggest; also do OU/UT have to approve expansion?

8/2/21 2:16pm

Per Big 12 bylaws, OU and UT would not have a vote on expansion

Doogal McCougar

8/2/21 2:38pm

This is not about bringing in more money NOW, it is about

BruceBruce

8/2/21 2:35pm

Exactly. So many are losing sight of the ultimate goal.

CaliWG

8/2/21 2:50pm

Based on your list the last team would have to be Memphis, USF or SDSU

CaliWG

8/2/21 2:58pm

The best advantage of this approach would be that it would pin the pac 12

travelcoug

8/2/21 3:55pm

Really? And what if BYU doesn't get invited to the Big XII?

Elwood Blues

8/2/21 4:12pm

We don’t have time to catch people up to speed when they have spent the last

travelcoug

8/2/21 4:20pm

Oh c'mon, bring me up to speed. Did BYU get an invite? If so, did they accept?

Elwood Blues

8/2/21 5:24pm

Hey troll, hit your spot under the bridge

travelcoug

8/2/21 5:27pm

Can't figure out why many are in love with Boise. What exactly do they add?

ManicBlue

8/2/21 5:03pm

Agree: I'd take AF over Boise St. Great academics, solid football program with

vaquero

8/2/21 5:07pm

Air Force has been ranked once in 20+ years

krindorr

8/2/21 5:25pm

RIP Vaquero

(Private)

9/6/21 2:52pm

Honestly, I think it would just create a bigger gap between the neutered big 12

here's to hoping

8/2/21 6:01pm

Colorado State instead of Navy, I think CSU could be far more valuable long term

311polo

8/2/21 5:57pm

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