the math is clear. on 4th and 2 go for it when you're beyond your own 28 yard line.

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Oct 11, 2021
4:06:42pm

HarlemCoug Free to change my mind

the math is clear. on 4th and 2 go for it when you're beyond your own 28 yard line.

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HarlemCoug

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I know people are on Kalani for going for it on 4th & 2 in 2nd half. But we only

rcbyufan

10/11/21 2:53pm

They both are use to playing "slow". But I 100% agree you would think they would both have more of a sense

kimdaddy35

10/11/21 2:55pm

I liked the aggressiveness, just not the play call. A slow developing sweep wasn't good.

DiamondDog

10/11/21 2:56pm

Plus the play had no options in case the first choice was covered.

Hinta

10/11/21 2:59pm

That would have been a good time to have Hall keep it and at worst it is a one on one with lots of field for Hall to get

kimdaddy35

10/11/21 2:59pm

The lineman that tackled TA wasn't blocked well at all. Horrible blocking

SUAVO

10/11/21 3:07pm

It was the play call that was suspect

Kilgruman

10/11/21 6:08pm

BYU took up 11:22 on 2 drives which consumed 24 plays (28.5 secs/play) and yielded 0 points

Indy Coug

10/11/21 3:00pm

It was weird to watch. At one point, I was wondering if the coaches even knew

rcbyufan

10/11/21 3:10pm

I thought the exact same thing. No urgency down 2 scores in the second half. It

'69chevy

10/11/21 6:40pm

The lack of time urgency on the final drives was maddening.

mudpupper

10/11/21 3:04pm

This. I was, and still am truly puzzled at their approach

RockyBalboa

10/11/21 3:20pm

People in the NFL and NCAA are going for it on 4th down more than ever. The analytics are clear. It was the right call.

HarlemCoug

10/11/21 3:07pm

I don't care about the analytics. I didn't like that call. If we punt, odds are

gwalker

10/11/21 3:15pm

If you don't care about the analytics then you want to win fewer games

Gente_Boa

10/11/21 3:27pm

It was the wrong choice. The downside risk outweighed the upside. If

OlanchoCoug

10/11/21 4:02pm

the math is clear. on 4th and 2 go for it when you're beyond your own 28 yard line.

HarlemCoug

10/11/21 4:06pm

If you live in a statistical world where you can repeat that trial indefinitely,

OlanchoCoug

10/11/21 4:31pm

That's a really good point

krindorr

10/11/21 6:15pm

even I agree in your dice example the risk of ruin far outweighs the potential

Gente_Boa

10/11/21 8:17pm

I wasn't applying that to a specific situation, so much as saying situations exist where more than EV matters

krindorr

10/11/21 8:43pm

You completely disregard other factors that played against us there. We were

OlanchoCoug

10/11/21 8:45pm

I'm not disregarding them, I'm saying the marginal value of the expected points

Gente_Boa

10/12/21 10:38am

The math is an average and it doesn’t account for things like the emotional

gwalker

10/11/21 5:11pm

I don’t trust the accuracy of the analytics in the specific case we faced Sat.

gwalker

10/11/21 5:09pm

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