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Mar 29, 2024
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Japan Coug
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Just look at CB. So much gloom & doom here, the world is going to yewt if you
believe half of what you read on here.
Meanwhile, by most objective measures, this is (globally) probably the best time to be alive, ever.
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Suicide rates are now the highest since the Great Depression. Suicide rates in
valleus
Mar 29, 5:26pm
Where does the feeling of no hope come from? Social media.
Chester Copperpot
Mar 29, 5:28pm
Unfettered (read: inflationary) government spending, rising unemployment, spiking crime, non-stop corruption and spying.
Division Bell
Mar 29, 5:30pm
Teenagers aren't killing themselves over any of that.
vagabonder
Mar 29, 5:33pm
Teenagers weren't mentioned in the OP. That's your interpretation. Older people suffer from suicide too.
Division Bell
Mar 29, 5:34pm
This mindset shows it. People seem to be more pessimistic and love outrage porn.
Baron
Mar 29, 5:36pm
The feeling of material despair comes from not being able to afford food, transportation, housing, heating/cooling,
Division Bell
Mar 29, 5:43pm
The primary source of inflation is government spending? Link?
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 6:11pm
Covid never happened. Inflation isn't worldwide. Don't trust your lying eyes.
vagabonder
Mar 29, 6:13pm
Most people don't understand macroeconomics or what drives inflation.
Japan Coug
Mar 29, 6:15pm
Yep. Most people don't understand inflation. Celebrated economist and statistician Milton Friedman famously said
Division Bell
Mar 29, 6:31pm
By which he meant the Federal Reserve, as is clear in all his writings. Monetary
Japan Coug
Mar 29, 6:32pm
The Federal Reserve isn't governmental.
Division Bell
Mar 29, 6:40pm
His quote that you posted is saying exactly what I said, supporting it 100%. Thx
Japan Coug
Mar 29, 6:44pm
According to Friedman, government spending is the source of inflation. You can twist the argument to monetary policy and
Division Bell
Mar 29, 6:52pm
You have completely misunderstood Friedman. He never says that government
Japan Coug
Mar 29, 6:58pm
LOL. Do explain who is responsible for a rapid increase in the quantity of money? Who prints money? In response to...?
Division Bell
Mar 29, 7:03pm
In the US, the answer to both your questions is the Federal Reserve. It exists
Japan Coug
Mar 29, 7:08pm
It's been said that there are 4 economies
Division Bell
Mar 29, 7:33pm
Sure, on a cellular level, without govt, we would all be hunters/gathers or, at
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 7:04pm
War? Started by governments. Tariffs? Governments again. Labor markets? Regulated tightly by government. And so on.
Division Bell
Mar 29, 7:12pm
Exactly. So many ways to cause inflation that aren’t US govt spending.
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 7:30pm
Then we have Japan: decades of deflation/zero inflation despite incurring a
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 6:43pm
The BOJ will tell you that Japan is staring down its 4th decade of stagflation and wage deflation. Abenomics failed.
Division Bell
Mar 29, 7:00pm
You must be a troll.
Jelly Man
Mar 30, 1:34pm
And that feeling of despair may come from outrage and absurd views. So many older people come on here
Baron
Mar 30, 1:47pm
If only every out of work, drug addicted, overweight, divorced man had your
Jelly Man
Mar 30, 2:01pm
Inflation anxiety is real.
kotacoug
Mar 29, 6:32pm
I think a lot of people are nervous.
Division Bell
Mar 29, 7:59pm
Sure they are nervous in Canada. Their unemployment rate is near 6%. Ours is
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 10:14pm
Just look at CB. So much gloom & doom here, the world is going to yewt if you
Japan Coug
Mar 29, 5:31pm
Social media is playing a major role in depression
Jericho
Mar 29, 5:31pm
Interestingly, most of them do admit it.
Soren Tversky
Mar 29, 5:36pm
Adults too. They won't admit it either. Nobody is clean with Social Media. It's
777
Mar 29, 5:52pm
It's a problem for adults, but not nearly on the same level as it is for kids
Jericho
Mar 29, 6:05pm
That and income inequality, just like then, there is no way in sight to
Mitty
Mar 29, 5:33pm
Which is sad because there is a way. It is called working hard.
Chester Copperpot
Mar 29, 5:39pm
You should let them know
Mitty
Mar 29, 5:41pm
I do as often as I can. I have hundreds of clients that would hire anyone that
Chester Copperpot
Mar 29, 5:48pm
Sad. We've never had more opportunity, comfort, technology, ease, medical care
Jericho
Mar 29, 5:47pm
Young people have no hope with the far-left progressive socialist party...
byucougarsbig12
Mar 29, 5:39pm
LOL...the lefties rolling eyes, but Biden is their President.
byucougarsbig12
Mar 29, 5:54pm
Here's a bit of of help so you can understand some of the terms you use.
vagabonder
Mar 29, 6:03pm
Do you have a point that is about this post?
byucougarsbig12
Mar 29, 6:14pm
The point is if you understand the terms and ideologies you talk about, you'll
vagabonder
Mar 29, 6:26pm
Whatever the problem is...people will find a way to scapegoat the opposing
Blueto
Mar 29, 5:55pm
Yep, and MSNBC, CNN, ABC, Tic Toc, are the Preachers.
byucougarsbig12
Mar 29, 5:58pm
Don’t forget about Fox News, Breitbart, and Infowars.
allaboutthegainz
Mar 29, 7:00pm
Deaths from despair. It is a real thing in older men. Life expectancy is down
Jelly Man
Mar 30, 1:37pm
Source for changing morals and social media not impacting it? I think it is a
Sparkling Delirium
Mar 29, 5:29pm
Morals were very different in the 1910s, 1930s, 1980s, and today. There doesn’t
valleus
Mar 29, 5:39pm
So you think they feel no hope because of the nonsense they deal with on social
Stucoug83
Mar 29, 5:30pm
That's caused in part by social media.
LifeLongLakerFan
Mar 29, 5:31pm
Social media, depression, inflation, relationships (or lack of them), etc. Lots
BlooCoug
Mar 29, 5:31pm
What is the last statement based off of?
Soren Tversky
Mar 29, 5:32pm
I don’t find Haidt’s argument persuasive. He correctly musters the facts, but
valleus
Mar 29, 5:36pm
Yeah so that nature review is basically:
Soren Tversky
Mar 29, 5:51pm
I read Haidt as saying that social media is the primary
valleus
Mar 29, 6:37pm
Interesting. Did you look through/raise concerns with what him and Twenge were
Soren Tversky
Mar 29, 6:57pm
Young men are being left behind, and sadly a lot of the messaging towards them is not positive. I agree that young men
slappy
Mar 29, 5:32pm
Here’s a good article with accompanying graph:
valleus
Mar 29, 5:35pm
From the article
AtomicHamster
Mar 29, 6:16pm
Those yahoos may be too dumb to figure it out but I
rcbyufan
Mar 29, 6:29pm
Social media is playing a major role, there's countless studies that point to it
OnEMoReTrY
Mar 29, 5:36pm
They were decreasing from 2018 to 2020. We know what happened in 2020.
ochobeeguy
Mar 29, 5:36pm
Why do people have less hope now than at other periods in history? Seems like
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 5:39pm
The world has been preaching that if we just accept everyone for who they are
cougarbob137
Mar 29, 5:39pm
So the solution to increased suicide rates is promoting non-acceptance?
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 5:41pm
I think you captured what I said really well. If we were just a little more
cougarbob137
Mar 29, 5:46pm
I think it captures my confusion regarding the correlation of acceptance and
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 5:50pm
It’s not categorized in a way for me to get more into it than that. The world is
cougarbob137
Mar 29, 6:06pm
Possibly. Or it could be that there is another cause unrelated to acceptance.
Jay Kay
Mar 29, 6:09pm
1st sentence should be true. Problem is with how we decide a person’s
Soupie
Mar 29, 5:55pm
I like how definitively you state it's not because of social media. It's absolutely a part of it. It's because of
CSoul
Mar 29, 5:55pm
Only now are we producing adults who had 5+ yrs of teen smartphone use.
d-coug
Mar 29, 6:04pm
So true
TNT
Mar 29, 6:06pm
Hope and purpose. Having just one of those things causes your odds of suicide attempt to go next to 0 IMO.
darkcoug
Mar 29, 6:05pm
% male vs % female?
machete
Mar 29, 6:08pm
Usually male is way higher
Pretorian
Mar 29, 7:07pm
This article in the Atlantic is interesting.
Tweege
Mar 29, 7:10pm
Yeah this is a summary of Haidts work which the OP has said isn’t convincing
Soren Tversky
Mar 29, 7:15pm
Here’s my two cents
D.T. Survivor
Mar 29, 7:18pm
Utah age rates 11-23 have been horrible for years. I have seen soo many
wildlandfireguy
Mar 29, 8:41pm
Data is clear. It's screen time. Kids access to social media, smartphones, video
bruincoug
Mar 30, 2:40pm
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