we can't drive if there are 2 defenders guarding our two bigs sitting in the

Apr 6, 2017
1:39:33pm

BYUheaven All-American

paint. There was no space to drive this season. When our guards drive this season they were pushed outside the low block EVERY time. All their layups had their momentum falling away from the basket.

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In Noah Hartsock's final two years our bigs made 55 three pointers

BYUheaven

4/6/17 11:11am

Dastrup really seems to have a nice outside shot. I expect him to be more of

Epileptic Beagle

4/6/17 11:17am

I guess my worry is that when you look at the trend of a guy like Austin, do the

BYUheaven

4/6/17 11:21am

Well, I have zero confidences in the coaches being able to scheme properly to

Epileptic Beagle

4/6/17 11:23am

his shot looks nice....it just doesn't go in very often

Dangerous

4/6/17 11:21am

A freshman, who was out of shape playing limited minutes? I think it's easy

Epileptic Beagle

4/6/17 11:24am

There has to be a reason he was so

bluegato

4/6/17 11:43am

Sure didn't show up this season. 3/15 (20%)

rggee

4/6/17 11:21am

and a lot of those misses weren't close...they were clunkers

Dangerous

4/6/17 11:23am

Dastrup was a very good 3 point shooter all last summer in practice. 3/15 says no more than KD's 7/15 the year before.

roseyscenario

4/6/17 11:40am

Also, from his ESPN scouting recruiting profile

jreid191

4/6/17 11:43am

If you don't have at least one big that can shoot 3's you better be elite

thebruce

4/6/17 11:42am

I'm intrigued by Ryan Andrus--I think he might be able to fill that role.

dilbert

4/6/17 12:46pm

Unless Childs can improve his shooting mechanics, he will never be a reliable

Indy Coug

4/6/17 11:50am

Didn't he shoot like 40% from 3 at Bingham?

rggee

4/6/17 11:56am

yes he did.....on a pretty good volume of shots too.

BYUheaven

4/6/17 11:58am

That's not always true. Plenty of guys have been reliable 3 point shooters with

thebruce

4/6/17 12:01pm

I tend to agree--though he could be exceptional, as others have said.

mantis mutu

4/6/17 12:24pm

Just one more interesting tidbit. In Noah's junior year (Rice's last year

BYUheaven

4/6/17 12:04pm

Shoot me.

thebruce

4/6/17 12:16pm

Tyler Haws once told me that Nate Austin was one of the best shooters

MagicHappen$

4/6/17 12:14pm

Exactly. Nate was money from 15 feet on the baseline in high school.

BYUheaven

4/6/17 12:17pm

He had a good J beyong HS as well. Then it totally died and he went

southernfriedcougar

4/6/17 12:38pm

I seem to remember Nate taking some 3's early in his last few seasons and

dilbert

4/6/17 12:39pm

He shot 4 his junior year, 5 his senior year, and 1 his second senior year

BYUheaven

4/6/17 12:42pm

Yeah, the offense definitely wasn't designed to get Nate looks from 3.

dilbert

4/6/17 12:59pm

In an interview a long time ago he said his job was to play defense, rebound, &

j20

4/6/17 1:47pm

I get a coach trying to manage shot selection by players...

icecougar

4/7/17 12:42pm

This is why it's on the coaches. Nate was a good shooting big .. Nielson too.

runnincoug

4/6/17 12:50pm

taking more outside shots means < fg%

Cougforgood

4/6/17 1:32pm

we can't drive if there are 2 defenders guarding our two bigs sitting in the

BYUheaven

4/6/17 1:39pm

Or when our bigs are outside and the defenders stay in because they won't shoot

runnincoug

4/6/17 2:26pm

Oh I agree

Cougforgood

4/6/17 3:43pm

this year when teams were doubling down on Mika it stifled our offense...

icecougar

4/7/17 1:40pm

Mika's jumpshot was a work in progress much of the season

Cougforgood

4/7/17 1:53pm

Bad coaching. If you're on the floor you should be looking to score...

icecougar

4/7/17 1:30pm

I would say Josh Sharp was an above average offensive rebounder

Cougforgood

4/7/17 1:46pm

Rumor is that Mika can hit 3's decently. He wants to become much better. I think

BostonCougar

4/6/17 12:34pm

As a minimum, his range improvement trend justifies projecting his future potential range to the arc.

roseyscenario

4/6/17 12:45pm

Ha! Yeah seriously. Doesn't sound too hard.

Ham

4/6/17 2:04pm

My point is that we have had them. It's the scheme

BYUheaven

4/6/17 2:25pm

We don't need big men to hit 3 pointers; we need ANYONE to hit 3 pointers

OGSuperfan

4/6/17 3:13pm

It is more than big man hitting threes, it is about providing the needed space

BYUheaven

4/6/17 3:20pm

Poor shot selection by guards, including 3s, caused the paint to clog up.

BYUHgrad

4/6/17 5:06pm

Can you expound?

Epileptic Beagle

4/6/17 5:08pm

There is a theory that offensive rebounds aren't worth it

wapiti

4/6/17 4:53pm

It should be about matchups should BYU go for offensive rebounds vs San Diego?

BYUheaven

4/6/17 4:59pm

But yes there are a lot of good articles out there on not going for offensive

BYUheaven

4/6/17 4:59pm

This is a case where you have to be careful with statistics

StealingHome

4/6/17 5:41pm

I've thought a lot about this one. There are obviously other factors that bear..

icecougar

4/7/17 10:29am

I don't think it's an inability to develop it, I think Coaches discourage it...

icecougar

4/6/17 7:05pm

Nate Austin had seven threes as a freshman?! MIND BLOWN!

PKCoug

4/6/17 9:44pm

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