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There is much irony in the article about Jamal, the honor code, and his uncle
bluefish
4/13/17 2:00pm
Totally agree. Great take.
LosAlcoug
4/13/17 2:04pm
RE: There is much irony in the article about Jamal, the honor code, and his
ManicBlue
4/13/17 2:06pm
Yes. That would be a better story. There are some clues in the article...
bluefish
4/13/17 2:10pm
I'm not sure that most people would agree that a lifestyle of premarital sex and
chilango
4/13/17 2:11pm
Well said.
neboutefan
4/13/17 2:21pm
While it may not be THE factor, it is definitely a contributing factor. Not wise
cougarbob137
4/13/17 2:28pm
What percentage of college kids who drink and engage in premarital sex do you
chilango
4/13/17 2:31pm
What percentage of people who turn out like Neal's father and uncles didn't
cougarbob137
4/13/17 2:44pm
What percentage ate food and breathed air and watched TV?
chilango
4/13/17 5:54pm
Eat, drink and be merry my friend. Good luck to you.
cougarbob137
4/14/17 9:23am
I never had pre-marital sex, nor have I ever drunk alcohol. This has nothing to
chilango
4/14/17 9:28am
I'm focusing on minority communities like Jamal's. The stats don't lie...
bluefish
4/13/17 6:28pm
So is it the alcohol and premarital sex, or are there other factors that might
chilango
4/13/17 6:45pm
You're either being intentionally obtuse or you don't get it.
MormonThug
4/13/17 8:41pm
Or more likely, you just never read the OP that I was responding to,
chilango
4/13/17 9:07pm
Still think you're straining a little hard on this one
MormonThug
4/13/17 9:12pm
RE: So is it the alcohol and premarital sex, or are there other factors that
here's to hoping
4/13/17 9:38pm
Definitely was not arguing that it's race. That's pretty much the opposite of
chilango
4/13/17 11:33pm
RE: Definitely was not arguing that it's race. That's pretty much the opposite
here's to hoping
4/14/17 2:57pm
I don't think he is arguing the contribution of these factors as much as the
StalwartBraveTrue
4/14/17 5:09pm
You raise good points, to which there are answers
SurfCoug
4/13/17 9:43pm
Actually government welfare benefits are a big factor in the AA community...
bluefish
4/14/17 11:34am
Premarital sex leads to fatherless homes... plenty of studies out there that
Unibro
4/13/17 2:32pm
RE: Premarital sex leads to fatherless homes... plenty of studies out there that
chilango
4/13/17 2:34pm
What percentage of college kids having premarital sex leave illegitimate
jvquarterback
4/13/17 3:56pm
Less than 1%, I would guess. Now answer my question, please.
chilango
4/13/17 5:55pm
I'd estimate far closer to ten percent.
jvquarterback
4/14/17 1:10am
Just because most people can engage in premarital sex and drinking
Bgash
4/13/17 3:59pm
I agree that criticizing them is absurd, but I haven't seen any such criticism -
chilango
4/13/17 6:16pm
maybe criticize is a stronger word than is deserved
Bgash
4/13/17 6:36pm
Sex & booze were necessary, but not sufficient, conditions
SurfCoug
4/13/17 4:15pm
So you believe that without alcohol and premarital sex, there would be no child
chilango
4/13/17 6:09pm
The incident of child abuse and serious neglect is far, far less
SurfCoug
4/13/17 9:36pm
I thumbs upped both you and the OP. Both make great points
cajuncoug
4/13/17 10:13pm
Hate to break it to you, but every major world religion
Bostonblue
4/14/17 2:00am
Who said anything about alcohol abuse? We're talking about drinking, which most
chilango
4/14/17 7:07am
Bottom line is this: if you don't think drinking and premarital sex contributed
Bostonblue
4/14/17 10:34am
No, I never said they didn't contribute. They probably did. But they are a
chilango
4/14/17 1:38pm
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Bostonblue
4/14/17 6:12pm
Obviously not everyone who has premarital sex or drinks gets into trouble.
Bostonblue
4/14/17 6:14pm
I don't think you understand what the author is mocking. He's mocking the fact
chilango
4/14/17 6:33pm
*tenants
blueaussie
4/13/17 2:15pm
I appreciated the snippet from Reno, basically explaining that the HC can really
Unibro
4/13/17 2:21pm
The biggest takeaway for me after reading a story like that
HBCoug
4/13/17 2:22pm
Jamaal is one of my favorite BYU players ever ... great young man and
ManicBlue
4/13/17 2:35pm
I didn't take that he glamorizes that type of lifestyle
braddahmike
4/13/17 2:28pm
I think plenty of the author's morals were infused into that story
SingleStrapBackpack
4/13/17 2:54pm
Are we just looking for our own morals to be reflected in these stories?
braddahmike
4/13/17 3:28pm
I am simply saying that the author's morals/worldview are clearly infused
SingleStrapBackpack
4/13/17 4:10pm
clickbait sells
nc-puma
4/13/17 2:33pm
EXCELLENT post, blue!
Fervent Cougar
4/13/17 2:38pm
Very nicely written!
buckowens
4/13/17 2:47pm
the part I found weird was how Jamaal had issues with people staring at him on campus. It didn't mention how
HarlemCoug
4/13/17 3:07pm
Yeah, most of us thought that I'm sure. I even wonder how much of that
mantis mutu
4/13/17 3:28pm
I got stared at every day of my life as a missionary in SE Asia
SingleStrapBackpack
4/13/17 3:30pm
Me too. I was a 6'5" missionary in Hong Kong. It didn't really bother me though
bluefish
4/13/17 6:32pm
Nope, they don't.
Lip Gallagher
4/13/17 3:41pm
this is funny. Most students at byu are either from a part of the country
nc-puma
4/13/17 3:44pm
I was a racial minority at my high school, and I swear half of my fellow BYU students were from California
SingleStrapBackpack
4/13/17 4:13pm
The fact that you think it doesn't exist is funnier.
Lip Gallagher
4/13/17 4:16pm
Not saying it doesn't exist, just think it's sometimes overblown because
nc-puma
4/13/17 5:11pm
Easy to say when you're probably one of the white guys doing the staring.
Lip Gallagher
4/13/17 5:29pm
i mostly agree.. you could argue both ways and find examples that
nc-puma
4/13/17 6:10pm
RE: Easy to say when you're probably one of the white guys doing the staring.
moabmax
4/24/17 10:55am
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Abe Froman
4/13/17 6:01pm
Mea Culpa: I'll admit when I've seen a tall, buff, black dude on campus
StalwartBraveTrue
4/13/17 6:56pm
Well said, bro. Uncle Neal's take on the good side of his Mormon faith woulda
mantis mutu
4/13/17 3:18pm
Elder Christofferson would be proud. "Not enough to practice what we preach...
BamaCoug
4/13/17 3:49pm
I didn't take it that way at all, more ham fisted attempt at
MatthiasG
4/13/17 4:14pm
I agree it may not have been intentional. But it does mock the standards.
bluefish
4/13/17 6:21pm
Again, it shows ignorance IMO, not maliciousness. And the defense &offerinexpl
MatthiasG
4/16/17 8:10am
Here here
LifelongAP
4/13/17 6:58pm
Jamaal
GeauxCougs
4/13/17 7:02pm
Well said. U only have 2 watch cnn to know logic isn't a requisite 4 journalism
zerome4sooners
4/24/17 5:49am
I partially agree with you, but also feel like you are oversimplifying it.
Adrielle
4/24/17 6:55am
One of the best posts I've ever read on CB! Well done! POTD!
lbmango
4/24/17 8:59am
Good point and thanks for your take on it
D.T. Survivor
4/24/17 9:58am
I do not divine that at all. It seems it is merely part of the story.
Archaea
4/26/17 6:12pm
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