here's the thing though, I can think of plenty of teachers that I think need to be fired. they cannot be.

Apr 26, 2018
2:49:54pm

jaromp All-American

until we can get rid of teacher's unions and the bane they are to our society, it will do no good to pay more. The crappy teachers will just get fatter and have less reason to leave and make room for the good ones.

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its really simple. In our free market system, you are not going to attract the best and the brightest

Adrielle Stable Genius

4/26/18 2:20pm

I think teacher salaries suffer from a second income mentality.

mudpupper

4/26/18 2:35pm

What you run into is that a lot of folks are satisfied with "good enough".

Eddie

4/26/18 2:35pm

I don't disagree with any of what you said

Adrielle

4/26/18 2:38pm

I come from a family of educators.

Eddie

4/26/18 2:46pm

here's the thing though, I can think of plenty of teachers that I think need to be fired. they cannot be.

jaromp

4/26/18 2:49pm

So - here's the problem with that theory.

Eddie

4/26/18 2:55pm

They could be fired if the principal wanted to go through the process of putting

Capricious Cougar

4/26/18 2:57pm

I actually think what you run into most is very good and bright teachers who are a household's second income. It's just

scootsy

4/26/18 3:12pm

Unfortunately, for a lot of families the education part of their kids going to

crack

4/26/18 2:47pm

"Best & brightest" is aiming too high, but I agree with the general sentiment

frontrowcougar

4/26/18 2:50pm

Or underpay and just hope that enough people are willing to forgo greater wealth for intrinsic rewards

Adrielle

4/26/18 2:57pm

Works well for cops, firefighters, social workers, etc., etc., etc...

Eddie

4/26/18 2:58pm

I don't think it works well in some of the other professions that you list

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:24pm

Probably right.

Eddie

4/26/18 4:36pm

If enough quality people choose the profession, then it isn't underpaying.

frontrowcougar

4/26/18 3:31pm

True...

Adrielle

4/26/18 4:46pm

My question is how much would outcomes change if that happened?

Pretorian

4/26/18 3:00pm

I am one of those, and there are a lot who are amazing

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:21pm

I don’t think I could agree with you more about being able to deal with behavior

Pretorian

4/26/18 8:39pm

Do you think that better and brighter teachers would improve

Plato

4/26/18 3:00pm

This is a very good point ^^^^

Pretorian

4/26/18 3:01pm

I understand, but this should not be the only concern

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:11pm

I'm sure we could get by with fewer teachers and more babysitters

Plato

4/26/18 3:18pm

If all teachers are to your are babysitters then you were getting overpaying them

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:39pm

Didn't say that though.

Plato

4/26/18 3:51pm

Not sure I understand your point

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