Probably right.

Apr 26, 2018
4:36:24pm

Eddie All-American

Probably right.

I know the smoke jumpers are paid well. I just assumed your run of the mill live in a fire station guys were paid like other "public servants".

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its really simple. In our free market system, you are not going to attract the best and the brightest

Adrielle Stable Genius

4/26/18 2:20pm

I think teacher salaries suffer from a second income mentality.

mudpupper

4/26/18 2:35pm

What you run into is that a lot of folks are satisfied with "good enough".

Eddie

4/26/18 2:35pm

I don't disagree with any of what you said

Adrielle

4/26/18 2:38pm

I come from a family of educators.

Eddie

4/26/18 2:46pm

here's the thing though, I can think of plenty of teachers that I think need to be fired. they cannot be.

jaromp

4/26/18 2:49pm

So - here's the problem with that theory.

Eddie

4/26/18 2:55pm

They could be fired if the principal wanted to go through the process of putting

Capricious Cougar

4/26/18 2:57pm

I actually think what you run into most is very good and bright teachers who are a household's second income. It's just

scootsy

4/26/18 3:12pm

Unfortunately, for a lot of families the education part of their kids going to

crack

4/26/18 2:47pm

"Best & brightest" is aiming too high, but I agree with the general sentiment

frontrowcougar

4/26/18 2:50pm

Or underpay and just hope that enough people are willing to forgo greater wealth for intrinsic rewards

Adrielle

4/26/18 2:57pm

Works well for cops, firefighters, social workers, etc., etc., etc...

Eddie

4/26/18 2:58pm

I don't think it works well in some of the other professions that you list

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:24pm

Probably right.

Eddie

4/26/18 4:36pm

If enough quality people choose the profession, then it isn't underpaying.

frontrowcougar

4/26/18 3:31pm

True...

Adrielle

4/26/18 4:46pm

My question is how much would outcomes change if that happened?

Pretorian

4/26/18 3:00pm

I am one of those, and there are a lot who are amazing

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:21pm

I don’t think I could agree with you more about being able to deal with behavior

Pretorian

4/26/18 8:39pm

Do you think that better and brighter teachers would improve

Plato

4/26/18 3:00pm

This is a very good point ^^^^

Pretorian

4/26/18 3:01pm

I understand, but this should not be the only concern

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:11pm

I'm sure we could get by with fewer teachers and more babysitters

Plato

4/26/18 3:18pm

If all teachers are to your are babysitters then you were getting overpaying them

Adrielle

4/26/18 3:39pm

Didn't say that though.

Plato

4/26/18 3:51pm

Not sure I understand your point

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