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Jun 23, 2018
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Hypnotoad
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Because he was chubby and wanted order. The other kids wanted chaos.
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The biggest problem with The Lord of the Rings, IMO
dchandle15
6/23/18 10:38pm
And why did Piggy have to die?
Dr MoBYU
6/23/18 10:38pm
Because he was chubby and wanted order. The other kids wanted chaos.
Hypnotoad
6/23/18 10:42pm
Mob mentality is a primal instinct.
Dr MoBYU
6/23/18 11:09pm
Sam resisted evil all the way to the end.
spugeddy24
6/23/18 10:44pm
Yup, he was the hero. I have this same argument with my mom
Bert609
6/23/18 11:21pm
Love the idea that great things are accomplished by imperfect people
SouthernCoug
6/24/18 5:17am
Spoiler! I haven’t had a chance to read the book yet.
Cougar-Duck
6/23/18 10:52pm
To show that nobody is immune to the temptation of power
jokai_mor
6/23/18 10:59pm
Tom Bombadil was immune to the ring’s power.
Cougar-Duck
6/23/18 11:02pm
In fact, (nerd alert):
Cougar-Duck
6/23/18 11:06pm
He put the ring on and wasn't even made invisible.
Bert609
6/23/18 11:18pm
Not sure how solid it is, but I've always liked the theory . . . (spoilers?)
jokai_mor
6/24/18 10:30am
Never seen it
Mr. Belding
6/23/18 11:07pm
Life incomplete
BYUBandfan
6/23/18 11:10pm
I've never seen any of LoTR, Harry Potter or the hobbitt
kotacoug
6/23/18 11:14pm
Wow that is so cool and manly!
shimmy
6/24/18 7:12am
Ohh a quibble from Shimmy....
kotacoug
6/24/18 7:43am
No quibble. Just respect for something you're proud of.
shimmy
6/24/18 10:08am
Same with me. Glad there are other cool people on the board.
Mr. Belding
6/24/18 8:44am
Read the book
Downtown
6/24/18 12:02am
I did read those first
dchandle15
6/24/18 12:31pm
I don’t see a problem with it. I don’t think I’d like it quite as much if he
cougarnerd
6/24/18 12:03am
Spoiler Alert!!
sah22
6/24/18 12:18am
I'm as antispoiler as they come, but you're talking here about a book that is
mannheimadler
6/24/18 1:15am
Please recalibrate TIC meter
sah22
6/24/18 9:05am
Here is one perspective
yahtzee
6/24/18 1:36am
I never really thought about it like that, but it's a good point.
BlueFever
6/24/18 3:23am
Sam resisted. The narrative you mention holds true with him.
jdub
6/24/18 3:53am
Reminds me of the scripture “he will deceive the very elect.”
tebowned
6/24/18 6:12am
One of the best Tolkien quotes:
Bert609
6/24/18 8:05am
I like it. Christ was the only one who could stay perfect. Frodo needed some
Osteotome
6/24/18 5:00am
This "problem" is one example of why LotR transcends the generic
panguitch
6/24/18 6:20am
And it's carried through, to the end where Frodo can't stay. IIRC, the explanation was something along the lines that he
Smack'sWife
6/24/18 3:45pm
Only two people ever voluntarily gave up the ring.
panguitch
6/24/18 4:37pm
That's some deep stuff right there. Good but deep.
SouthernCoug
6/24/18 4:42pm
It’s about bad seeds; he inherited it from the Baggins’s
RWaters
6/24/18 7:28am
Tolkien didn't intend allegory. That doesn't mean he didn't intend meaning.
panguitch
6/24/18 8:18am
I think it has to do with Gollum. Frodo questioned why bilbo
Cougarclaw
6/24/18 8:11am
Also, the denouement would be far less poignant if Frodo had achieved
panguitch
6/24/18 9:05am
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