It’s about bad seeds; he inherited it from the Baggins’s

Jun 24, 2018
7:28:40am

RWaters All-American

Just kidding

Tough to interpret too much with Tolkien.

He never intended any specific meanings and just wanted people to enjoy it and figure out what it means to them which can shift.

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The biggest problem with The Lord of the Rings, IMO

dchandle15

6/23/18 10:38pm

And why did Piggy have to die?

Dr MoBYU

6/23/18 10:38pm

Because he was chubby and wanted order. The other kids wanted chaos.

Hypnotoad

6/23/18 10:42pm

Mob mentality is a primal instinct.

Dr MoBYU

6/23/18 11:09pm

Sam resisted evil all the way to the end.

spugeddy24

6/23/18 10:44pm

Yup, he was the hero. I have this same argument with my mom

Bert609

6/23/18 11:21pm

Love the idea that great things are accomplished by imperfect people

SouthernCoug

6/24/18 5:17am

Spoiler! I haven’t had a chance to read the book yet.

Cougar-Duck

6/23/18 10:52pm

To show that nobody is immune to the temptation of power

jokai_mor

6/23/18 10:59pm

Tom Bombadil was immune to the ring’s power.

Cougar-Duck

6/23/18 11:02pm

In fact, (nerd alert):

Cougar-Duck

6/23/18 11:06pm

He put the ring on and wasn't even made invisible.

Bert609

6/23/18 11:18pm

Not sure how solid it is, but I've always liked the theory . . . (spoilers?)

jokai_mor

6/24/18 10:30am

Never seen it

Mr. Belding

6/23/18 11:07pm

Life incomplete

BYUBandfan

6/23/18 11:10pm

I've never seen any of LoTR, Harry Potter or the hobbitt

kotacoug

6/23/18 11:14pm

Wow that is so cool and manly!

shimmy

6/24/18 7:12am

Ohh a quibble from Shimmy....

kotacoug

6/24/18 7:43am

No quibble. Just respect for something you're proud of.

shimmy

6/24/18 10:08am

Same with me. Glad there are other cool people on the board.

Mr. Belding

6/24/18 8:44am

Read the book

Downtown

6/24/18 12:02am

I did read those first

dchandle15

6/24/18 12:31pm

I don’t see a problem with it. I don’t think I’d like it quite as much if he

cougarnerd

6/24/18 12:03am

Spoiler Alert!!

sah22

6/24/18 12:18am

I'm as antispoiler as they come, but you're talking here about a book that is

mannheimadler

6/24/18 1:15am

Please recalibrate TIC meter

sah22

6/24/18 9:05am

Here is one perspective

yahtzee

6/24/18 1:36am

I never really thought about it like that, but it's a good point.

BlueFever

6/24/18 3:23am

Sam resisted. The narrative you mention holds true with him.

jdub

6/24/18 3:53am

Reminds me of the scripture “he will deceive the very elect.”

tebowned

6/24/18 6:12am

One of the best Tolkien quotes:

Bert609

6/24/18 8:05am

I like it. Christ was the only one who could stay perfect. Frodo needed some

Osteotome

6/24/18 5:00am

This "problem" is one example of why LotR transcends the generic

panguitch

6/24/18 6:20am

And it's carried through, to the end where Frodo can't stay. IIRC, the explanation was something along the lines that he

Smack'sWife

6/24/18 3:45pm

Only two people ever voluntarily gave up the ring.

panguitch

6/24/18 4:37pm

That's some deep stuff right there. Good but deep.

SouthernCoug

6/24/18 4:42pm

It’s about bad seeds; he inherited it from the Baggins’s

RWaters

6/24/18 7:28am

Tolkien didn't intend allegory. That doesn't mean he didn't intend meaning.

panguitch

6/24/18 8:18am

I think it has to do with Gollum. Frodo questioned why bilbo

Cougarclaw

6/24/18 8:11am

Also, the denouement would be far less poignant if Frodo had achieved

panguitch

6/24/18 9:05am

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