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RdF3
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Apparently Utah thinks they're close to flipping Chase Roberts
who just went to Utah on a visit last weekend. They're making a hard push for him and think they may get him.
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Apparently Utah thinks they're close to flipping Chase Roberts
RdF3
12/9/18 9:09pm
Link?
kansascougar
12/9/18 9:11pm
#sources
RdF3
12/9/18 9:11pm
Utah sources? Well of course they’re going to think that.
TempeCoug
12/9/18 9:13pm
Yes, it's coming from the Utah side. I didn't say anything about him actually
RdF3
12/9/18 9:14pm
Who's going to pass him the ball? At least BYU has a qb that can fling it
Hypnotoad
12/9/18 9:14pm
Well, Utah has 3 wide receivers that have more receiving yards
Jdoc
12/9/18 9:18pm
let's see what wilson does in a full year of starting
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 9:52pm
Lol! He had 8 touchdown passes in 6 games. Let’s
Jdoc
12/9/18 9:58pm
Oh brother
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:00pm
Nice response. Very compelling counterpoint. Best
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:02pm
Thanks. I felt like it was the best response in our exchange so far
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:03pm
Some great teams he put that 140 up on. Good grief. Take
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:07pm
actually yes
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:08pm
He played well against Utah in the first half. Didn’t do anything
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:10pm
He had a 140 qb rating against the Utes
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:11pm
Yes, they are. 8 touchdown passes in 6 games, including
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:12pm
he's definitely the superior qb
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:12pm
Another great response.
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:13pm
thanks!
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:14pm
cougarmanguy, you have to understand that ANY player on a team that loses is
hyperbully
12/10/18 5:32pm
😂😂😂😂😂
puntersarepeople
12/10/18 6:00pm
Not my finest post. Sorry about that. It was pretty stupid of me.
Jdoc
12/10/18 6:23pm
oh I don't think I'd necessarily say that at all
hyperbully
12/10/18 7:54pm
I will try to do better.
Jdoc
12/10/18 8:03pm
Thanks Dryfly!
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:16pm
Show’s how clueless you are. Utah’s starter was
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:17pm
The Utes' QB won the game
DryFlyUte
12/9/18 10:29pm
Sure you guys won. Shelley played like garbage most of the game. Your team was better, shelley is worse
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:30pm
Some on CB don’t believe in wins as the ultimate stat. They are all
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:32pm
RE: Some on CB don’t believe in wins as the ultimate stat. They are all
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:33pm
You are aware that Shelley is Utah’s backup, right? He won’t
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:36pm
of course. Huntley similarly didn't have any quality games against top defenses this year
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:38pm
Wasn’t he comparing quarterbacks to quarterbacks? That seems like saber metrics would be important
JohnnyComeLately
12/10/18 7:20am
According to Ute metrics, Terry Bradshaw is far superior to Peyton Manning
Colorado
12/10/18 9:53am
And others on CB are not even fans that come here to argue about BYU.
Blue for Life
12/10/18 8:48am
You are forgetting the most important statistic is having PAC 12 Officials
slatecoug
12/10/18 3:06pm
There weren't Pac 12 officials in the rivalry game, if I am not mistaken
DryFlyUte
12/10/18 3:15pm
Hence, Wilson with a 140 rating and Shelley with a 111
cougarmanguy
12/10/18 3:18pm
If you value a stat over the final score then great
DryFlyUte
12/10/18 3:36pm
I don’t and didn’t. The argument here was who was the better qb.
cougarmanguy
12/10/18 3:51pm
That was a big one, but there were multiple plays that were just as big where the officials helped Utah.
slatecoug
12/11/18 12:08am
Nonsense
DryFlyUte
12/11/18 3:58am
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slatecoug
12/11/18 12:06am
Flip that around. If Wilson is on Utah you love him. The entire Utah fanbase
unctoothman
12/10/18 10:45am
I really like Wilson. He looks like he is going to be a good one. I just think
Jdoc
12/10/18 10:58am
Huntley is certainly a good QB...if he's mobile. But go back to the discussion
unctoothman
12/10/18 11:07am
Good points. I think either place is a good option for him. I wouldn’t
Jdoc
12/10/18 12:58pm
I think you're undervaluing Huntley a bit here. He can definitely make all the
BigBrotherUte
12/10/18 3:41pm
I’d take BYUs schedule talentwise over Utah
puntersarepeople
12/10/18 3:58pm
First, he’s a true freshman and has only six starts under his belt.
D.T. Survivor
12/10/18 4:42pm
Sorry but playing at Utah does not give him a better shot at the NFL.
Blue for Life
12/10/18 8:01pm
Utah hasn’t had more recent success with WRs in the NFL
puntersarepeople
12/10/18 8:16pm
Are you one of those geniuses who thinks w/l is a good way to measure a QB's
BeefNoodleSoup
12/11/18 12:28am
Jackson Shelley has 3 TD passes in 8 games. Along with 4 INTs.
crazY
12/9/18 10:57pm
But I am not arguing that Shelley is the superior qb. I am
Jdoc
12/9/18 11:28pm
Huntley has 12 TD passes in 9 games. Still a bad argument.
crazY
12/9/18 11:46pm
Huntley had 15 TD's through thirteen games last year.
Cougzilla
12/10/18 9:09am
Lol, Shelley has 4 legit starts. The rest of the games were garbage time where
BigBrotherUte
12/9/18 11:31pm
Right, but we are arguing TD passes. Unless you guys want to move the goal posts
crazY
12/9/18 11:45pm
I just care if the ball gets in the end zone in games that matter.
BigBrotherUte
12/10/18 12:43am
Ok.
crazY
12/10/18 7:13am
Lol. Has much more to do with who is around Shelley than the QB himself
SUAVO
12/9/18 11:46pm
Jason started 4 games.. the other four he played garbage time in blows outs.
lilpenny
12/10/18 8:55am
Well, more than he ended the year with
cougarmanguy
12/10/18 8:59am
Awesome. 3 TD passes through 4 starts. That's something to write home about.
crazY
12/10/18 9:14am
You're looking at it the wrong way. What's more important is how well a QB can
BigBrotherUte
12/10/18 10:58am
So you're moving the goal posts again?
crazY
12/10/18 12:54pm
If you are Ute then you must be joking. Either you think your defense is really
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/10/18 10:03pm
Huntley hasn't beaten anyone. His special teams and defense has.
DJROSS
12/10/18 1:29pm
when your team is good enough to give your QB short fields, and when your
DJROSS
12/10/18 2:27pm
...which means he's got a great shot to make a huge impact at BYU
SingleStrapBackpack
12/9/18 10:25pm
No way he'd play receiver at Utah. He'd be the next Chase Hansen or Nate Orchard
dYrtbYkerYder
12/10/18 11:42am
Not what I am hearing.
crazY
12/9/18 9:12pm
Stop listening to Kyle Gunther
SUAVO
12/9/18 9:14pm
Yeah, that dude drinks his own bath water.
kansascougar
12/9/18 9:26pm
I highly doubt that. Let’s see, do you want to come and have Wilson sling it to you or would you rather have ???
Pimpin4Paradise
12/9/18 9:14pm
I agree completely. He'd be crazy to.
RdF3
12/9/18 9:16pm
BYU’s leading wide receiver this year is Shumway with 319
Jdoc
12/9/18 9:21pm
spoken of in the pre full year Wilson era
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 9:51pm
Just stating the facts. Also, Huntley put up some pretty good numbers before
Jdoc
12/9/18 9:53pm
Huntley and Wilson had exactly the same qb rating
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 9:59pm
Now compare their competition... Wilson did it against some of the worst
BigBrotherUte
12/9/18 10:17pm
Don’t bother Big Brother Ute. Cougarmanguy
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:19pm
that and facts
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:22pm
that's actually not even close to accurate
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:21pm
Hate to break it to you but none of Huntley’s wins were impressive
puntersarepeople
12/9/18 10:22pm
that's true. No wins against a top 50 defense
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:23pm
And who has Wilson beat? Oh, yes, Hawaii, New Mexico State and UMASS.
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:25pm
Wins over talented teams like USC, Stanford, and UCLA will always be impressive.
BigBrotherUte
12/9/18 10:35pm
ucla had the 105th ranked defense
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:41pm
No question that none of them were great. Stanford was 41st in scoring D, but
BigBrotherUte
12/9/18 10:53pm
I’m sorry I can’t give credit for the name when the results aren’t good
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:55pm
your basketball team sucks.
BountifulCoug5
12/9/18 10:22pm
This is true. We suck in basketball and you guys own us there. And it
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:26pm
Comparing their competition using ESPN's TQBR and you have
DJROSS
12/10/18 2:42pm
You're saying thay Huntley has a better QBR but isn't as good because he's a
BigBrotherUte
12/10/18 3:48pm
His best performance might have been against Utah
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/11/18 12:33am
BYU's & Utah's passing numbers over the last 3 season have been very similar...
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 9:24am
I agree that neither team has a very good passing attack.
Jdoc
12/10/18 9:39am
I wouldn't go that far. After week 4 when Utah changed up the play calling,
BigBrotherUte
12/10/18 10:40am
I mean Tyler Huntley is a legit Pac-12 QB with some great wins over quality
BigBrotherUte
12/9/18 10:14pm
Wilson is vastly a better QB than Shelley. It isn't close.
RdF3
12/9/18 10:20pm
It's more debatable than you think. Prior to the P12 Championship, Shelley
BigBrotherUte
12/9/18 10:28pm
Do you think Shelley has more talent around him than Wilson?
RdF3
12/9/18 10:31pm
Of course, but he's also playing against better talent.
BigBrotherUte
12/9/18 10:38pm
HA. Have fun in the rose bowl buddy!
BountifulCoug5
12/9/18 10:22pm
The Holiday Bowl ain’t bad. Question. When was the last time BYU
Jdoc
12/9/18 10:29pm
We made that bowl you get to play in this year.
pegushin
12/9/18 10:58pm
How long has it been since BYU played in the Holiday Bowl? Many
Jdoc
12/9/18 11:03pm
That bowl like your programs existence likely is moot without us.
pegushin
12/10/18 2:33pm
Keep trusting the Utes
puntersarepeople
12/9/18 10:22pm
Huntley doesn't have any wins over a quality defense
cougarmanguy
12/9/18 10:29pm
50% chance?
RexIdaCoug
12/10/18 10:45am
Does he want to play in a Pac 12 conference or against NMSU?
lilpenny
12/10/18 8:56am
There’s more than one Pac-12 conference?
kansascougar
12/10/18 8:58am
Does he want to play storied programs at home on natl. TV or buried on the PAC ntwk where no ne sees it?
soupie
12/10/18 9:00am
Would Wilson play rather play FOR a storied program
puntersarepeople
12/10/18 1:52pm
Did he have any offers from one? Love Wilson but if you're talking BSU, it seems he made his choice.
soupie
12/10/18 1:54pm
I haven’t heard anything like that.
All-American
12/9/18 9:17pm
He starred in a movie with Samuel L Jackson
PessimisticCB
12/9/18 9:19pm
Who hasn't?
yahtzee
12/9/18 9:21pm
Kevin Bacon, amazingly.
All-American
12/9/18 9:29pm
Mmm. Bacon.
Zaphod
12/9/18 9:33pm
Mmm Kevin.
PessimisticCB
12/9/18 9:35pm
My son will be crushed. We were watching the LP/AF game and he thinks BYU
maxpowers
12/9/18 9:31pm
Seems unlikely he would. I was just saying Utah's camp thinks he might.
RdF3
12/9/18 9:32pm
Someone send him video of Utah fans chanting
BYU4eVeR
12/9/18 9:32pm
It would be hard to send since it doesn't exist
pastyute
12/9/18 10:03pm
Utah thinks all they have to do is say PAC-12 a million times
Seasider
12/9/18 9:33pm
Hopefully the PAC 12 continues to do poorly
puntersarepeople
12/9/18 9:37pm
It worked with Covey, Hansen, Nacua and others.
Jdoc
12/9/18 9:38pm
Nacua was never going to BYU
TPcoug
12/9/18 10:33pm
You should be worried about the ones it doesn’t work with. When utah
kansascougar
12/10/18 6:30am
Some kids just want to go out of state. But it goes both ways. Utah steals more
BigBrotherUte
12/10/18 7:34am
It doesn’t work that way...if they go out of state
truecougster
12/10/18 10:45am
I don't know about others. But PAC12 isn't what why Covey went to Utah.
Lance71
12/10/18 7:28pm
I don't know anything about anything, but they thought they'd get Romney.
Cougarclaw
12/9/18 9:41pm
Who cares what Utah thinks?
donnerstag
12/9/18 9:44pm
JDoc cares deeply what we think
Carnac
12/10/18 8:47am
Don’t think so. What I’ve heard is Chase is committed
puntersarepeople
12/9/18 10:08pm
That would be a mistake in cusp of BYU do inating
Coug Dude
12/9/18 10:21pm
Don't worry, Sitake is a great recruiter
acougfan
12/9/18 10:37pm
This is another reason why this bowl game matters...like a lot.
zac-attack66
12/9/18 10:50pm
All I have to say to CB is quit stressing about it....
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 9:09am
This guy would know. By the way, your son is a baller
kansascougar
12/10/18 9:10am
Who is his son?
D.T. Survivor
12/10/18 11:05am
Boone Abbott (Chase's QB at AF)
SingleStrapBackpack
12/10/18 7:42pm
And that settles it for me. Thanks!
RexIdaCoug
12/10/18 9:20am
RE: All I have to say to CB is quit stressing about it....
CrashMcLarson
12/10/18 9:25am
CoachSpeak would know this. Question for you. If Utah
Jdoc
12/10/18 9:41am
Yes, of course....
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 9:53am
An offer from Hawaii would be tough to turn down for a walk on spot. I think he
Jdoc
12/10/18 10:00am
Not a deal breaker...
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 10:56am
He has a really good arm. Hope he can find a place to play QB. If not
kansascougar
12/10/18 11:06am
All his offers are as a QB....
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 11:09am
Does he have MLB draft potential or is it too early to say?
Jdoc
12/10/18 11:17am
He has potential for it....
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 11:43am
He definitely has the size, speed and skill to flourish at qb at the D1 level.
Jdoc
12/10/18 11:08am
It's nice to see the puke try hards are out in full force today. Get a life...
Bluedarts
12/10/18 9:54am
Receiving stats:
displacedute
12/10/18 4:32pm
The thing is that we know what Utah is...
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 4:39pm
Perhaps.
displacedute
12/10/18 4:54pm
I actually have a little bit of inside insight on that if you’d like...
CoachSpeak
12/10/18 5:03pm
Smoke and mirrors. How much of that was Tanner Mangum? And do you really think
DJROSS
12/10/18 5:21pm
Okay. Here's Wilson to receivers per game v. Huntley.
displacedute
12/10/18 6:12pm
Now you need to look at the trend. You are relating things to the mean. Big
DJROSS
12/10/18 6:44pm
Lol you'd never think your team has won 8 in a row. It's too easy. #rentfree
Bluedarts
12/10/18 8:56pm
RE: Apparently Utah thinks they're close to flipping Chase Roberts
yahtzee
12/10/18 10:59pm
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