So what's the net lives saved by vaccinations, even if some people die from them?

Jan 15, 2019
10:39:12am

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

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I know everyone here hates anti Vax people so thought I would share this...

whiteninja

1/15/19 10:31am

How many people have been killed by the diseases vaccines have eliminated? Tens of millions? I think I'll take my

scootsy

1/15/19 10:36am

My little anecdote about this.

Adrielle

1/15/19 10:38am

HPV is a family of viruses and only ~25% of them are STDs.

molodyets

1/15/19 10:41am

correct, but the HPV subtypes targeted by Gardasil are STDs

Littlerich

1/15/19 10:45am

Definitely don't get it then. There's no possible way your kid might

molodyets

1/15/19 10:53am

I think people should get it

Littlerich

1/15/19 10:56am

You want to know a secret that the makers of Gardasil and the public health

BeardedSpock

1/15/19 7:49pm

Agreed. After researching this, our daughters will not receive this vaccine

jcase16byu

1/15/19 10:43am

I still plan on giving it to my kids. HPV is the most common STD out there. It

vegasnative

1/15/19 10:49am

You never know who your daughter's will end up marrying. Could be a convert or

cougaman

1/15/19 10:52am

I don't think it maters when you get it. So will council my oldest to get it before she marries

Adrielle

1/15/19 12:46pm

What if she has sex before she's married?

TCuz

1/15/19 12:49pm

Not sure that's 100% true

spinner

1/16/19 2:36pm

Not seeing the causal relationship between your research and your decision...

CommodoreCoug

1/16/19 12:58pm

Have you ever seen a woman die from cervical cancer?

cougarBee

1/16/19 1:35pm

So what's the net lives saved by vaccinations, even if some people die from them?

Indy Coug

1/15/19 10:39am

Yeah, but that was just a statistical anomaly.

John Doe

1/15/19 11:26am

I believe his point was about the hpv vaccine.

conetah

1/16/19 7:24am

I just read the actual decision. This article is a complete lie. What happened

vegasnative

1/15/19 10:42am

You mean that wasn't the most legitimate of news sites!?!?

molodyets

1/15/19 10:45am

haha shocking right?! I don't know who to trust anymore!

vegasnative

1/15/19 10:46am

You may be a grumpy anti-doctor, but at least you have some sense to be not anti-science.

Virginia Ute

1/15/19 11:05am

haha I do have some redeeming qualities. If doctors were more forceful with

vegasnative

1/15/19 11:10am

While incredibly sad for the families of those that did die,

TheLoneCougar

1/15/19 10:42am

I wasn’t aware there was a “beyond a shadow of a doubt”

Sandstone Cougar

1/15/19 10:42am

Calling it a "sloppy article" is actually giving it more credit than it deserves.

jdub

1/15/19 11:01am

FROM DCDIRTYLAUNDRY.COM?! NO WAY!

LaVellIfIKnow

1/15/19 10:53am

And this is actually a good example of why we get bugged by anti-vax people. They think articles like this

jdub

1/15/19 10:58am

Thanks for everyone's insights. Again, we elected against it but are pro vax

whiteninja

1/15/19 11:05am

Please tell me those arent the websites you use for research to make

molodyets

1/15/19 11:07am

No someone shared it on FB...shared and thought I would get a good response

whiteninja

1/15/19 11:35am

You posted the article with this statement: "...elected against the HPV vaccine and this was why."

jdub

1/15/19 11:47am

RE: You posted the article with this statement: "...elected against the HPV

whiteninja

1/15/19 12:38pm

So, option 2, exactly as I said. The problem is you posted that article thinking it made a valid point

jdub

1/15/19 12:47pm

Sad man. Ruining herd immunity for the rest of us.

Mr. Belding

1/15/19 3:06pm

Let's be honest here: you posted it because you thought it made a good case.

jdub

1/15/19 11:13am

What a stupid article. We are all dumber from you having posted that. I'd expect nothing less from oil-pushing,

Virginia Ute

1/15/19 11:06am

Just curious, what are your arguments?

Alister Mackenzie

1/15/19 11:09am

See my links for some good responses:

jdub

1/15/19 11:15am

You said it well enough, I don't think I could say it better than that.

Virginia Ute

1/15/19 11:24am

Well that hurts coming from a Ute troll who spends all his time on a BYU chat

whiteninja

1/15/19 11:37am

Oh look, the anti-science essential oil peddler is making fun of me for being a "Ute troll."

Virginia Ute

1/15/19 11:41am

We probably should stick to the merits of the article, and the logical responses to it, rather than ad hominem attacks

jdub

1/15/19 12:06pm

Wow. I know you disagree but we don’t need to be mean.

conetah

1/16/19 7:35am

I hate the statement "We are not anti-vax cause we vaccinated our kids but..."

TCuz

1/15/19 12:32pm

Not black & white. Some people get caught up in the worm hole. The earth is flat

CarolinaCoug

1/15/19 7:32pm

Man, everything was spelled correctly in that post, yet I still have no idea what you're talking about.

jdub

1/15/19 7:53pm

Flat earthers and antivaxers information sources and understanding or lack there

CarolinaCoug

1/15/19 9:24pm

And just how many folks have died sometime after eating jello-That proves it!

jaba166

1/16/19 4:12am

I'll do what doctors recommend most of the time. The way this is written

buckeyecougarguy

1/16/19 4:08pm

So does the meningitis vaccine and anti-malarial medications

Sumguy

1/16/19 4:47pm

The fact that you get health news from a source like this says a lot about you

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