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Feb 14, 2019
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Parkcity_and
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POLL: With Pippen's recent remarks on Lebron, I'm curious about what CB thinks- Who's the better basketball player: MJ or Lebron?
Also, to be clear, MJ pushed off.
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POLL: With Pippen's recent remarks on Lebron, I'm curious about what CB thinks- Who's the better basketball player: MJ or Lebron?
Parkcity_and
2/14/19 1:00pm
Michael might average 50-60 in todays nba
CarolinaCoug
2/14/19 1:01pm
he would have scored less
Josef K
2/14/19 1:02pm
How?
Sandy Lyle
2/14/19 1:02pm
Everyone scored more than they do now in his 86-87 year
Josef K
2/14/19 1:05pm
You should do some research and then realize you don't know what you are
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:15pm
There were more points or equal points scored without 3 point shooting
Belboz
2/14/19 1:24pm
They averaged .8 possessions more per game in '86-'87 than they do
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:28pm
And how about last year and the year before that?
Belboz
2/14/19 1:50pm
What does Lebron James have anything to do with comparing how much Michael
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:54pm
Maybe nothing. 80s basketball was faster paced than what we've seen since
Belboz
2/14/19 2:02pm
Nope. Still stands. I’m going off completed seasons.
Josef K
2/14/19 1:28pm
You go by what you said even though it is wrong? LOL. Why not compare it to
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:31pm
Average score per team was 105 or above until Jordan’s first retirement
Josef K
2/14/19 1:47pm
You are ignoring the point of the argument regarding the physical nature of
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 2:01pm
Overrated. Here’s highlights from the 89 playoffs vs the knicks
Josef K
2/14/19 2:13pm
Video doesn't lie. The idea that defense was better back then is a complete
Dillinger
2/14/19 2:14pm
Watch some video of when the Bulls played the Pistons. You are right, it
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 2:15pm
Sure. The last couple years of jordans career
Josef K
2/14/19 2:18pm
Jordan couldn't be hand checked and grabbed the whole time. He would be
Sandy Lyle
2/14/19 1:52pm
agreed, the NBA was so much more physical. defenders could get away with so
Cougz19
2/14/19 1:03pm
The game was not more physical in the 80s. It was actually faster paced and
Josef K
2/14/19 1:11pm
Then the Pistons came along.
Belboz
2/14/19 1:21pm
Why did they score less points then?
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:21pm
So there is this thing called the 3-pointer that teams shoot now... 3>2.
Devouring1
2/14/19 1:23pm
Which helps make the game higher scoring. A direct contradiction to what he
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:29pm
He is referring to the pace and amount of scoring The amount was higher.
Devouring1
2/14/19 1:39pm
Teams average 100 possessions per game today, in 1986-87 they averaged 100.8
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:42pm
I think the reason we are on different pages is simple.
Devouring1
2/14/19 2:20pm
But most of Jordan's career was in the 90's, when the pace had already slowed
Game Changer
2/14/19 6:58pm
They didn’t. This is the only year of lebron’s career that scoring has been
Josef K
2/14/19 1:26pm
The average point totals today are higher than they were in 86-87, so you
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:29pm
but his point stands that for the most part of lebron's career scoring and pace
smokymountainrain
2/14/19 1:44pm
Why are we talking about mid-80's? He was referring to 86-87 and whether
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:46pm
86-87 was mid-80s. and sure, it wasn't way more, it was just a little bit more
smokymountainrain
2/14/19 1:47pm
But you are ignoring the physical nature of the late 80's. If you were alive
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:58pm
the physicality is overstated. but even if you don't believe that, i'm not sure
smokymountainrain
2/14/19 2:13pm
It was both faster paced and more physical. Those are not mutually exclusive.
Game Changer
2/14/19 6:49pm
He shot more free throws per game than Harden in 88.
Devouring1
2/14/19 1:19pm
and Harden would have shot 25% less if he played back in the 80's
Cougz19
2/14/19 2:07pm
Thats such a silly argument. It's like the players are getting worse over the
Dillinger
2/14/19 1:24pm
you're wrong. basketball is literally the only sport on the planet where guys
smokymountainrain
2/14/19 1:26pm
Chris Bosh the other day said Dwayne Wade would have scored 40 a game if he was
Dillinger
2/14/19 1:27pm
see, comments like this are so dumb. if that's the case, why isn't lebron or
smokymountainrain
2/14/19 1:30pm
i'm not so sure it's as silly as it sounds. MJ had 37ppg in an era with far less
macaroni
2/14/19 1:37pm
actually, pace is about the same now as it was mid -80s
smokymountainrain
2/14/19 1:41pm
this is why i added more to the argument. i could have also added that watered
macaroni
2/14/19 1:54pm
One on One I'll take Lebron all day. If I'm putting together a team, I'll take MJ first every time
IceBlueCoug
2/14/19 1:02pm
I agree. Lebron is much more physical than MJ was
Croweater
2/14/19 1:04pm
He is bigger. Not sure I would say more physical.
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:16pm
One on one lebron just backs him down and dunks every time
Croweater
2/14/19 1:22pm
Wrong on this. MJ can foul him and LBJ is terrible at FTs.
notsofast
2/14/19 1:28pm
Who calls fouls playing 1on1
IceBlueCoug
2/14/19 1:29pm
James Harden definitely would.
crack
2/14/19 1:55pm
So it's not really basketball, it's run you over ball. Got it.
notsofast
2/14/19 2:19pm
Lol, then why dont teams do this to him now? Cause he always gets the and-1..
Devouring1
2/14/19 1:30pm
LeBron is not a good FT shooter, really not that great of a shooter,
notsofast
2/14/19 2:23pm
Right...eyeroll
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:44pm
uhh
Cougz19
2/14/19 2:13pm
One on One? Would Labron beat Wilt? Kareem? Magic? Shaq? Malone? I'd say nope.
Benfica1
2/14/19 1:42pm
Pippen would have you believe that the better question is LeBron vs. Kobe.
garyfan
2/14/19 1:06pm
That is the better question. LeBron is closer to Kobe than Jordan.
Game Changer
2/14/19 6:50pm
Crazy. And not because LeBron is necessarily as good as MJ but because
garyfan
2/14/19 8:50pm
RE: POLL: With Pippen's recent remarks on Lebron, I'm curious about what CB thinks- Who's the better basketball player:
soupie
2/14/19 1:07pm
in terms of that comparison the only thing i know for sure is that
smokymountainrain
2/14/19 1:09pm
Different players in different eras with different rules
Crazy Duck
2/14/19 1:12pm
Is this the same Scottie Pippen that said he was better than Lebron?
kimdaddy35
2/14/19 1:17pm
This one
BYUFootballisBack
2/14/19 2:04pm
Which one of his recent remarks?
BYUFootballisBack
2/14/19 2:04pm
I"m a Jazz fan and Yes he pushed off, BUT
cougswin
2/14/19 2:21pm
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