I don’t disagree with any of that. All I’m saying is that it seems too early to

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Mar 13, 2019
6:42:31am

ataylor All-American

I don’t disagree with any of that. All I’m saying is that it seems too early to

be putting the current state of the football program on any kind of pedestal of consistency or success or positive change in comparison to a program that — while slumping — has been more consistent, more successful, and overall more positive over the last decade and certainly over the tenure of the two current coaches.

That’s it! I want both programs and coaches to succeed.

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For some reason I’m just not optimistic for the future unless there

3/12/19 9:55pm

Even though football has had objectively worse results?

Mr. Scoobs

3/12/19 9:55pm

This is what baffles me the most about the recent basketball outrage.

ataylor

3/12/19 10:00pm

I think the difference is you can see changes with fb team, future looks bright

kolob32

3/12/19 10:12pm

I’ve seen changes with the football program, most of them not for the better.

ataylor

3/12/19 10:25pm

Completely agreed, but you also have to remember Rose has been at this for

Ash

3/13/19 12:18am

Don’t get me wrong — I think there need to be changes in the basketball program.

ataylor

3/13/19 12:30am

The only arguments I find somewhat convincing are around the staff changes

Ash

3/13/19 12:51am

I don’t disagree with any of that. All I’m saying is that it seems too early to

ataylor

3/13/19 6:42am

Yep. Football needs more improvement than hoops but both need to improve

Coogar2

3/13/19 7:16am

FB team also plays a tougher schedule comparatively speaking than BB

kolob32

3/13/19 8:03am

CBS Sports has BYU at 61/353 for strength of schedule, with the football team

ataylor

3/13/19 8:58am

Only because we have to fit in the G5 teams at the end of the year, The FB team

kolob32

3/13/19 9:39am

Front-loaded schedules are nothing new for BYU football, and if we’re comparing

ataylor

3/13/19 10:32am

The indy football sept. schedules have been harder than anything BYU faced in

kolob32

3/13/19 10:48am

If that’s how you want to explain away .500 football over the last three seasons

ataylor

3/13/19 11:04am

You are placing too much value on facts and results.

Mr. Scoobs

3/13/19 12:14pm

I'm not trying to explain anything away, bottom line who's job is tougher? Which

kolob32

3/13/19 12:54pm

Sitake’s job is tougher than Rose’s for sure. I’m guessing that is reflected in

ataylor

3/13/19 2:10pm

I think this year will be a pretty telling year for sitake. He has good home

BYUheaven

3/12/19 10:17pm

He should be sweating with anything less than eight regular-season wins, or

ataylor

3/12/19 10:27pm

no because they seem more willing to make changes.

3/12/19 10:27pm

Which changes? The ones that happened because the previous staff got P5 jobs or

ataylor

3/12/19 10:31pm

Fire detmer and hire Grimes. They easily could’ve kept him on for another year.

3/12/19 11:58pm

So, the 4-9 changes. I’ll be excited about those when we’re back to winning 10

ataylor

3/13/19 12:06am

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ataylor

3/12/19 10:32pm

But if those changes don’t lead to good results what does it matter?

Mr. Scoobs

3/13/19 8:09am

Exactly. If Rose stays we are toast.

idacoug

3/12/19 9:57pm

I agree, the sure fire way to instill hope for future is to blow everything up

gww687

3/13/19 7:11am

I see no reason to be more optimistic for football than basketball. Same AD for

Coogar2

3/13/19 7:17am

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