The OP isn't about Ty'Son specifically, it's about what's been going on for years and years

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Apr 19, 2019
8:30:01am

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

And the clear trend is that institutional barriers make it increasingly harder for BYU to be more competitive.

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Originally posted on Apr 19, 2019 at 8:30:01am

Message modified by Indy Coug on Apr 19, 2019 at 9:17:34am

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Indy Coug

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I've been saying this for awhile now: The biggest issue for BYU isn't conference affiliation or coaching

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

4/19/19 8:23am

No one here even knows if there is an institutional issue here.

soupie

4/19/19 8:25am

The OP isn't about Ty'Son specifically, it's about what's been going on for years and years

Indy Coug

4/19/19 8:30am

Without Ty’son we’re not having this convo.

soupie

4/19/19 8:32am

This conversation has been on going for years.

TN_Coug

4/19/19 8:43am

Star Lotuleilei, Pita Taumoepenu both were initially BYU commits but

Jesse Pinkman

4/19/19 9:21am

Star didn't get into Utah until after he graduated from JC. Not a BYU admissions

Lance71

4/19/19 10:17am

You sure? Meaning he couldn't have gotten in to any D1 school w/o going JUCO?

Trent

4/19/19 10:40am

He was a non-Q and had to complete his AA for eligibility

jrj84105

4/19/19 12:20pm

Bad examples. Star had to go JC and Pita was cleared to attend BYU but chose

byubyu

4/19/19 12:19pm

C'mon soupie...where have you been the last several years?

coug10278

4/19/19 9:22am

It’s been a conversation for the last decade

maxpowers

4/19/19 9:25am

How competitive do you think BYU should be on average?

Mr. Scoobs

4/19/19 8:37am

Top 25

The Dude Abides

4/19/19 9:32am

Yes I think this is realistic, likely 15-25 bottom quartile

VballDad

4/19/19 9:53am

For over a decade (05-15) with the same restricitons, we averaged a 33 finish.

Mr. Scoobs

4/19/19 10:34am

What happened to Ty'Son?

Archaea

4/19/19 10:12am

It's not just about athletics.

boscatar

4/19/19 9:35am

There have been plenty of things that have gone down over the years

ReggaeCoug

4/19/19 12:14pm

I'll agree with this. Dying from self-inflicted wounds more than conference

BYUfan92

4/19/19 8:26am

Yep, all controllable and correctable (within reason). Non-assertive leadership

HalftimeAdjustment

4/19/19 8:31am

Did the last guy not have similar restrictions with objectively better results?

Mr. Scoobs

4/19/19 8:29am

I've seen it first hand

DodgerMike

4/19/19 8:33am

The biggest issue is and always will be the Honor Code and it's enforcement.

mudpupper

4/19/19 9:08am

Good for you. Shut up and do actuarial stuff

Ron Mexico

4/19/19 9:36am

Agree 100%

SoCalCoug

4/19/19 9:38am

Plus, an Apostle telling you to act like a robot on the sideline/public

VballDad

4/19/19 9:55am

To be fair, most of what you say is awful sarcasm or trolling CB. 🙂

Lip Gallagher

4/19/19 9:58am

Coaching is part of the problem right now.

coolblue

4/19/19 10:03am

you think "institutional" change would help BYU more than joining a P5?

panguitch

4/19/19 10:36am

Would honestly like to understand what is meant by this.

Plato

4/19/19 11:51am

If this is a real question, you are being naive or just blind.

ReggaeCoug

4/19/19 12:18pm

Uh. Am I to understand that you can't describe these problems? I

Plato

4/19/19 1:03pm

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