It's probably important to clarify that the Kafentzis/Tonga/Dayan package

Sep 18, 2019
12:21:38pm

jvr7 Contributor

is not a trick play. It's a short yardage package, not really a trick play. My commentary has more to do with the reverses/fake reverse/ reserve passes flea flicker type plays that are run 1-2 times a game.

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Grimes deserves credit on this

jvr7

9/18/19 9:54am

Very much like BSU that way. Takes advantage of overpursuit.

Turnpike Lane

9/18/19 9:57am

Mostly agree. But I hate the lineup that uses half the defense.

byubyu

9/18/19 9:57am

Yeah, because that one has only resulted in 2 or 3 touchdowns.

foofcoug

9/18/19 10:00am

Williams is the better option to run that for a lot of reasons.

byubyu

9/18/19 10:02am

Once out of like 4 or 5 times it's been run. Also took a difficult spot for

fattycoug

9/18/19 10:19am

He got the run the next play after he stepped out but didn't make it in so they

Cougz19

9/18/19 11:56am

rewatched it and I was wrong he actually got 2 chances after stepping out

Cougz19

9/18/19 12:02pm

It works amazingly well - Just not when you run it three straight plays

Jesse Pinkman

9/18/19 10:01am

Exactly!

BlueForLife

9/19/19 10:11am

Throw some wrinkles in off of that play too, and it would work well.

dYrtbYkerYder

9/18/19 10:03am

Andrade lined up for a snap that didn’t happen. You don’t put a speedster in to

kscores2

9/18/19 11:57am

Pretty sure that’s Kafentzis

puntersarepeople

9/18/19 2:50pm

One touchdown. Then once USC saw it once, they were ready for it and stuffed it

BYUMizzou

9/18/19 10:14am

One TD vs Utah 2018. One TD vs Western Michigan. One TD vs USC.

foofcoug

9/18/19 10:18am

That's not a Grimes lineup

Coop

9/18/19 11:23am

Huh? Then who came up with the play and the personnel?

chazen

9/18/19 4:03pm

Lamb

Coop

9/18/19 4:04pm

I agree with you.

chazen

9/18/19 4:02pm

Kalani said they practice that against 15-20 defenders, and tell them where the

TailgateU

9/19/19 7:51am

It's because misdirection is baked into the offense. It allows for natural trickery. I like it a lot.

YIsForBrigham

9/18/19 10:04am

Remember when Detmer said he wouldn't use trickery In the offense because he

CougarTailDevourer

9/18/19 10:24am

This

charles

9/18/19 11:19am

Preach

BYU313

9/18/19 1:44pm

We've also had Hifo bobble the ball

Pony Zale

9/18/19 10:48am

Would love to see the “hook and ladder”

truecougster

9/18/19 11:06am

Just haven't seen anything threatening from Jaren Hall so far. When he's ran it

buckeyecougarguy

9/18/19 11:41am

A wise man once said “Trick plays are to score touchdowns not first downs”

StalwartBraveTrue

9/18/19 11:56am

That wasn't a trick play

chazen

9/18/19 12:29pm

Tomato - tomahto

StalwartBraveTrue

9/18/19 1:27pm

Well they aren't as wise as they think then

BYU313

9/18/19 1:48pm

It’s the saint’s taysom hill offense.

Gokoe

9/18/19 12:09pm

Not sure how others feel, but I'm not a fan of the Kafentzis/Tonga/Dayan play.

Ned Schneebly

9/18/19 12:16pm

Agreed. Too much risk. Cannot lose Tonga because of a stupid offensive play

chazen

9/18/19 12:29pm

It's probably important to clarify that the Kafentzis/Tonga/Dayan package

jvr7

9/18/19 12:21pm

I follow you. It is a package, but still a "trick" play.

Ned Schneebly

9/18/19 12:30pm

what is trick about snapping the ball and handing it off. Its just a different

Cougz19

9/18/19 12:35pm

There is a counter to every play

Pony Zale

9/18/19 1:48pm

So would you consider a play action pass a trick play then?

Cougz19

9/18/19 2:29pm

I would, if we brought in the kicker to play QB and had a cheerleader in as the

here's to hoping

9/18/19 2:35pm

I'll let dayan know how you feel about him

Cougz19

9/18/19 2:45pm

Boo hiss, he is my favorite player on the team. I was making a joke.

here's to hoping

9/18/19 2:47pm

Kafentzis is the all time leading QB in Utah history. Dayan was a very good RB

Cougz19

9/18/19 2:56pm

To each his own I guess.

Ned Schneebly

9/18/19 3:20pm

In an interview Ty'son said they practice that package every single day. its

Cougz19

9/18/19 4:17pm

Not saying they don't, but either way they won't get as many reps as the others.

Ned Schneebly

9/18/19 4:54pm

That might be Aaron Roderick. Utah is almost as famous as Boise State for

chazen

9/18/19 12:28pm

I don't call any play a "trick" play. It is just a play designed to take

PhilPete

9/18/19 1:15pm

misdirection is not a trick

Tsisquan

9/18/19 1:36pm

all of those should be flagged for "attempt to decieve"

Tsisquan

9/18/19 1:36pm

His wildcat run would have been successful if Katoa sees the LB and puts a

cougaman

9/18/19 2:46pm

At least he has introduced variants of the reverse to

Rocketman

9/18/19 3:13pm

RE: Grimes deserves credit on this

Higueyano

9/19/19 10:07am

His trick plays have been a disaster. Utah es one. 3rd down vs USC the lineman

IronPotato

9/19/19 8:00pm

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