Agree but is it different than outside of sports? For example, they called Kim B. Clark to be President of BYU-Idaho

Sep 20, 2019
7:21:38pm

Mr. Belding The easy way out

when he was Dean of the Harvard Business school. They presented it as more of a calling than a job and that’s why he left Harvard. People at Harvard thought he was nuts.

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Whittingham might have come to BYU if the church asked him to?

haYnCoug

9/20/19 10:18am

Sounds like what was the case with Ngata. Was President

BYU71

9/20/19 10:22am

Haloti Ngata? As a player?

DraperCoug22

9/20/19 12:57pm

It was President Eyring who gave him the job offer. He initially accepted then

IntelCougar

9/20/19 2:09pm

His kids are his own fault

LDTemplar

9/20/19 3:53pm

Is Whittingham currently active in the church?

zerigke

9/20/19 10:26am

Very, he is a quality member and person.

BYU71

9/20/19 10:28am

Opinions vary.

bluebrotha

9/20/19 10:34am

Oh I am sure. Mine are based on knowing 3 people that

BYU71

9/20/19 10:44am

I’m sure if you ask his friends they’ll give him a glowing report.

bluebrotha

9/20/19 10:53am

I have no doubt, if you say it, it is so. Nothing in his coaching performance

Archaea

9/20/19 11:07am

Some just don't understand you can be a good person and

BYU71

9/20/19 11:11am

Here is more shocking news. You can be a good person, not attend BYU

Archaea

9/20/19 11:12am

But we have cornered the market on equating goodness with white shirts!

ebv

9/20/19 1:43pm

Cute.

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 2:35pm

He doesn't wear a white shirt???!!!!

Bandersnatch

9/20/19 11:22am

Nope. And he wears leather pants to church too.

zerigke

9/20/19 12:24pm

Big difference between going to BYU as a student and accepting the HC job.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 12:08pm

Look at how this board reacts to how Kalani is so

BYU71

9/20/19 12:13pm

I said that KW should merely say "I am grateful for the opportunities BYU...

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 2:11pm

Great post

LDTemplar

9/20/19 1:37pm

He speaks glowingly of LaVell and others, CB just doesn't want to acknowledge it

Bonoman

9/20/19 1:42pm

...it is just easier to perpetuate the "Kyle is the Devil" narrative

Bonoman

9/20/19 1:43pm

Totally disagree. KW was a "huge" part of our massive success in the 80's &...

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 2:14pm

Church aside, when the BYU program became available the Utah program was in much

coastcat

9/20/19 2:05pm

Sarcasm, right? RIGHT?

ebv

9/20/19 1:41pm

Well then the question is- do good people refuse to acknowledge BYU by name

monsterdave

9/20/19 3:51pm

RE: Some just don't understand you can be a good person and

panguitch

9/20/19 5:11pm

So what if I wear a white shirt and didn't go to BYU? Am I just sort of good?

TailgateU

9/20/19 6:05pm

How about clean shaven blue shirt wearers?

Coug Dude

9/21/19 1:29am

You can be committed to your job and not add to the rivalry bitterness.

HONOMO

9/20/19 3:10pm

And if you read CB you get people who have no clue about it

BYU71

9/20/19 11:08am

If you say he is a devout member, I'll believe you. But even if he weren't

Archaea

9/20/19 11:12am

So is this insinuating he’s not active in the church because he coaches against

Coug Man in Florida

9/20/19 11:25am

And this is the kind of attitude that people take to propagate those attitudes

Playoff

9/20/19 11:50am

Yep. Just stop it!

Soupie

9/20/19 11:52am

Ok take away “insinuate.” That comment is what it is with or without judgment.

Coug Man in Florida

9/20/19 12:02pm

I think comments like this are what I hate about the rivalry.

CoastalUte

9/20/19 1:09pm

Common theme w/ people that actually know him or people that do

MatthiasPhunkHausen

9/20/19 12:47pm

RE: Oh I am sure. Mine are based on knowing 3 people that

HONOMO

9/20/19 3:07pm

good advice-- feel guilty for falling for the "trap"- although every Utah fan

monsterdave

9/20/19 3:58pm

No they don't

shakarocks

9/20/19 12:23pm

You answered a different question

run26

9/20/19 11:37am

No. He answered it.

Wingnut

9/20/19 11:43am

Oh so active LDS = “good person”?

run26

9/20/19 11:58am

Nobody said that

Wingnut

9/20/19 12:03pm

He said quality member AND person.

Coug Man in Florida

9/20/19 12:06pm

Yes. And not = not. You're catching on quickly. Good work.

All-American

9/20/19 12:43pm

Trigger alert!

IceBlue

9/20/19 1:06pm

Being considered for a MP when he is ready to retire

1-Wing RCAF

9/20/19 11:53am

True

MatthiasPhunkHausen

9/20/19 12:57pm

Then I wouldn't retire.

coolblue

9/20/19 2:36pm

Friend in his ward says he is quiet. Sits in the back. Was 100% on home teaching

TheismanHill1911

9/20/19 11:58am

Just imagine his church situation.. every Monday morning QB jock sniffer in the

nc-puma

9/20/19 12:14pm

I am known as someone who loves football at church and I hate it when people

TheismanHill1911

9/20/19 12:52pm

I've seen in him the temple before. Whatever that means.

DraperCoug22

9/20/19 12:57pm

You kind of framed that weird

Blue2thebone

9/20/19 2:10pm

Haha I'll clarify for you. After my mission I worked as a housekeeper in the

DraperCoug22

9/20/19 3:23pm

He was the one not in white, if you know what I mean.

All-American

9/20/19 3:51pm

A friend saw him in the temple a few years ago before the BYU game

sunjieming

9/20/19 1:18pm

Careful, I got a post taken down the other day for making a similar comment.

Machiavelli

9/20/19 1:51pm

You can't talk seriously about BYU football without at some point also....

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 2:18pm

They also seem to be selective in their enforcement

Machiavelli

9/20/19 2:35pm

Totally agree on both accounts: stupid rule and selective enforcement.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 8:37pm

His comment about sex the other day was rather weird

PokeBowl

9/20/19 1:51pm

I saw him at General Conference not long ago.

Real Men Wear Blue

9/20/19 2:12pm

I meet in the same building as him. But I won’t comment beyond that.

Almaden Cougar

9/21/19 12:40am

Church leadership will never turn a sports hire into a calling scenario. That would be really dumb.

Turnpike Lane

9/20/19 10:27am

says who? I think it would be awesome, imagine if he would have been our coach

kolob32

9/20/19 10:30am

Time to extend Brother Andy a calling to come home from KC..

SLIVER

9/20/19 1:57pm

And with everything that happens & all the possible outcomes, going into it as a calling could get ugly.

Soupie

9/20/19 10:32am

We would like to extend a vote of thanks to Brother Whittingham...all those who

NOCAL_YFAN

9/20/19 10:39am

They already do, per se, since their hiring must be approved by leadership.

bluebrotha

9/20/19 10:33am

Same as nearly every other job on campus. But a calling is vastly different than a hire.

Turnpike Lane

9/20/19 10:36am

But those at BYU will certainly act as if it is a calling

Coug

9/20/19 11:27am

Agree but is it different than outside of sports? For example, they called Kim B. Clark to be President of BYU-Idaho

Mr. Belding

9/20/19 7:21pm

He has told this story before. He asked President Samuelson if it was a calling

Solomon Levi

9/20/19 10:32am

Couldn't we have used the 1 thing that would have given us an advantage? Why not

kolob32

9/20/19 10:39am

And couldn't we have found someone who wasn't a founding member of the crimson

Alister Mackenzie

9/20/19 10:53am

Amen. I can't understand why we had him spend so many years as the Pres of BYU.

inside_info?

9/20/19 11:01am

What if Samuelson had said yes? Did Whitt WANT it to be a calling? Or NOT?

COACHdrn

9/20/19 4:13pm

Whitt would have gone

Solomon Levi

9/20/19 5:19pm

Is it true that Whitt went and talked to President Hinckley when deciding...

COACHdrn

9/21/19 12:41am

I don’t know

Solomon Levi

9/21/19 7:34am

Does anyone else confuse that new logo on his shirt in the preview with Utah State?

scall

9/20/19 10:38am

That’s probably why Utah has started using the state outline as an alternate

ataylor

9/20/19 10:42am

I guess, but the first time I saw it, I thought: hey, why is Kwhitt wearing a Utah State shirt/hoodie thingy.

scall

9/20/19 10:47am

That heading makes it sound like he didn't stay with Utah for the $$$ and we

Plato

9/20/19 10:51am

It was 2004, UU couldn't up the ante enough to make $$ the deciding factor

cougarmeister

9/20/19 11:28am

I have close connections to KW and I know he

58DCougar

9/20/19 12:18pm

I don't fault him for any of it.

Plato

9/20/19 7:41pm

KW deal with BYU was all but done. $$$ wasn't a factor

shakarocks

9/20/19 12:20pm

They also offered him like $300K more.

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 2:34pm

That was a minor factor

shakarocks

9/20/19 2:39pm

Sorry,some of us are not as intimate with him as you are, Ms.Whittingham. Still,

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 4:15pm

300k seems significant at 600k base, much less so

Plato

9/20/19 7:45pm

I'm hoping VaT can lure him away so Bronco will never beat a rival again

Y4LYFE

9/20/19 11:44am

Interesting attitude towards Bronco.

vagabonder

9/20/19 12:15pm

I revel in irony

Y4LYFE

9/20/19 12:37pm

It’s a rival, Bronco doesn’t need KWhitt to stop him.

bluecougar1985

9/20/19 1:41pm

Too bad it wasn’t a calling. Would have been a great coach to have at BYU.

Oat'n'bow

9/20/19 12:19pm

And all the behaviors people whine about as our rival would be praised

MatthiasPhunkHausen

9/20/19 12:51pm

Maybe it was a calling, but he failed the test by not being able to realize that

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 2:25pm

For me personally I have no issues with Whitt..no different than Bronco IMHO....

whiteninja

9/20/19 1:16pm

It is easy as a Cougar fan to hate Kyle. But, we'd probably come to love the guy

Coug Dude

9/20/19 2:18pm

If he were our coach and treated the U the same way, he'd be roundly celebrated.

ebv

9/20/19 2:35pm

I have always thought how much Cougar Nation would love Kyle if here were BYU HC

CT98

9/20/19 4:27pm

Funny thing: Choices worthy of love and respect elicit love and respect.

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 4:35pm

I’m glad that was handled correctly

Sumguy

9/20/19 2:27pm

I think we did great with a coach until 4 years ago.

coolblue

9/20/19 2:35pm

So he needed the BYU head coaching job to be a paid calling and then he would have accepted?

SpiffCoug

9/20/19 3:31pm

How dumb do you have to be to think BYU HC is a calling?

YIsForBrigham

9/20/19 3:54pm

The BYU coaching job isn’t right for him. He’s too focused on his career and not

Robbinoburrito

9/20/19 6:37pm

I mentioned a while back

Johnny Vatos

9/20/19 9:04pm

The Church wouldn’t ask him to do that. They have standards and such.

Nogi-oshi

9/20/19 10:35pm

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