Is it true that Whitt went and talked to President Hinckley when deciding...

Sep 21, 2019
12:41:04am

COACHdrn All-American

... Between BYU and Utah, and president Hinckley said something to the effect of "You can do good things at Utah."

And that this conversation helped lead Whitt to taking the Utah job?

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Whittingham might have come to BYU if the church asked him to?

haYnCoug

9/20/19 10:18am

Sounds like what was the case with Ngata. Was President

BYU71

9/20/19 10:22am

Haloti Ngata? As a player?

DraperCoug22

9/20/19 12:57pm

It was President Eyring who gave him the job offer. He initially accepted then

IntelCougar

9/20/19 2:09pm

His kids are his own fault

LDTemplar

9/20/19 3:53pm

Is Whittingham currently active in the church?

zerigke

9/20/19 10:26am

Very, he is a quality member and person.

BYU71

9/20/19 10:28am

Opinions vary.

bluebrotha

9/20/19 10:34am

Oh I am sure. Mine are based on knowing 3 people that

BYU71

9/20/19 10:44am

I’m sure if you ask his friends they’ll give him a glowing report.

bluebrotha

9/20/19 10:53am

I have no doubt, if you say it, it is so. Nothing in his coaching performance

Archaea

9/20/19 11:07am

Some just don't understand you can be a good person and

BYU71

9/20/19 11:11am

Here is more shocking news. You can be a good person, not attend BYU

Archaea

9/20/19 11:12am

But we have cornered the market on equating goodness with white shirts!

ebv

9/20/19 1:43pm

Cute.

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 2:35pm

He doesn't wear a white shirt???!!!!

Bandersnatch

9/20/19 11:22am

Nope. And he wears leather pants to church too.

zerigke

9/20/19 12:24pm

Big difference between going to BYU as a student and accepting the HC job.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 12:08pm

Look at how this board reacts to how Kalani is so

BYU71

9/20/19 12:13pm

I said that KW should merely say "I am grateful for the opportunities BYU...

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 2:11pm

Great post

LDTemplar

9/20/19 1:37pm

He speaks glowingly of LaVell and others, CB just doesn't want to acknowledge it

Bonoman

9/20/19 1:42pm

...it is just easier to perpetuate the "Kyle is the Devil" narrative

Bonoman

9/20/19 1:43pm

Totally disagree. KW was a "huge" part of our massive success in the 80's &...

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 2:14pm

Church aside, when the BYU program became available the Utah program was in much

coastcat

9/20/19 2:05pm

Sarcasm, right? RIGHT?

ebv

9/20/19 1:41pm

Well then the question is- do good people refuse to acknowledge BYU by name

monsterdave

9/20/19 3:51pm

RE: Some just don't understand you can be a good person and

panguitch

9/20/19 5:11pm

So what if I wear a white shirt and didn't go to BYU? Am I just sort of good?

TailgateU

9/20/19 6:05pm

How about clean shaven blue shirt wearers?

Coug Dude

9/21/19 1:29am

You can be committed to your job and not add to the rivalry bitterness.

HONOMO

9/20/19 3:10pm

And if you read CB you get people who have no clue about it

BYU71

9/20/19 11:08am

If you say he is a devout member, I'll believe you. But even if he weren't

Archaea

9/20/19 11:12am

So is this insinuating he’s not active in the church because he coaches against

Coug Man in Florida

9/20/19 11:25am

And this is the kind of attitude that people take to propagate those attitudes

Playoff

9/20/19 11:50am

Yep. Just stop it!

Soupie

9/20/19 11:52am

Ok take away “insinuate.” That comment is what it is with or without judgment.

Coug Man in Florida

9/20/19 12:02pm

I think comments like this are what I hate about the rivalry.

CoastalUte

9/20/19 1:09pm

Common theme w/ people that actually know him or people that do

MatthiasPhunkHausen

9/20/19 12:47pm

RE: Oh I am sure. Mine are based on knowing 3 people that

HONOMO

9/20/19 3:07pm

good advice-- feel guilty for falling for the "trap"- although every Utah fan

monsterdave

9/20/19 3:58pm

No they don't

shakarocks

9/20/19 12:23pm

You answered a different question

run26

9/20/19 11:37am

No. He answered it.

Wingnut

9/20/19 11:43am

Oh so active LDS = “good person”?

run26

9/20/19 11:58am

Nobody said that

Wingnut

9/20/19 12:03pm

He said quality member AND person.

Coug Man in Florida

9/20/19 12:06pm

Yes. And not = not. You're catching on quickly. Good work.

All-American

9/20/19 12:43pm

Trigger alert!

IceBlue

9/20/19 1:06pm

Being considered for a MP when he is ready to retire

1-Wing RCAF

9/20/19 11:53am

True

MatthiasPhunkHausen

9/20/19 12:57pm

Then I wouldn't retire.

coolblue

9/20/19 2:36pm

Friend in his ward says he is quiet. Sits in the back. Was 100% on home teaching

TheismanHill1911

9/20/19 11:58am

Just imagine his church situation.. every Monday morning QB jock sniffer in the

nc-puma

9/20/19 12:14pm

I am known as someone who loves football at church and I hate it when people

TheismanHill1911

9/20/19 12:52pm

I've seen in him the temple before. Whatever that means.

DraperCoug22

9/20/19 12:57pm

You kind of framed that weird

Blue2thebone

9/20/19 2:10pm

Haha I'll clarify for you. After my mission I worked as a housekeeper in the

DraperCoug22

9/20/19 3:23pm

He was the one not in white, if you know what I mean.

All-American

9/20/19 3:51pm

A friend saw him in the temple a few years ago before the BYU game

sunjieming

9/20/19 1:18pm

Careful, I got a post taken down the other day for making a similar comment.

Machiavelli

9/20/19 1:51pm

You can't talk seriously about BYU football without at some point also....

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 2:18pm

They also seem to be selective in their enforcement

Machiavelli

9/20/19 2:35pm

Totally agree on both accounts: stupid rule and selective enforcement.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/19 8:37pm

His comment about sex the other day was rather weird

PokeBowl

9/20/19 1:51pm

I saw him at General Conference not long ago.

Real Men Wear Blue

9/20/19 2:12pm

I meet in the same building as him. But I won’t comment beyond that.

Almaden Cougar

9/21/19 12:40am

Church leadership will never turn a sports hire into a calling scenario. That would be really dumb.

Turnpike Lane

9/20/19 10:27am

says who? I think it would be awesome, imagine if he would have been our coach

kolob32

9/20/19 10:30am

Time to extend Brother Andy a calling to come home from KC..

SLIVER

9/20/19 1:57pm

And with everything that happens & all the possible outcomes, going into it as a calling could get ugly.

Soupie

9/20/19 10:32am

We would like to extend a vote of thanks to Brother Whittingham...all those who

NOCAL_YFAN

9/20/19 10:39am

They already do, per se, since their hiring must be approved by leadership.

bluebrotha

9/20/19 10:33am

Same as nearly every other job on campus. But a calling is vastly different than a hire.

Turnpike Lane

9/20/19 10:36am

But those at BYU will certainly act as if it is a calling

Coug

9/20/19 11:27am

Agree but is it different than outside of sports? For example, they called Kim B. Clark to be President of BYU-Idaho

Mr. Belding

9/20/19 7:21pm

He has told this story before. He asked President Samuelson if it was a calling

Solomon Levi

9/20/19 10:32am

Couldn't we have used the 1 thing that would have given us an advantage? Why not

kolob32

9/20/19 10:39am

And couldn't we have found someone who wasn't a founding member of the crimson

Alister Mackenzie

9/20/19 10:53am

Amen. I can't understand why we had him spend so many years as the Pres of BYU.

inside_info?

9/20/19 11:01am

What if Samuelson had said yes? Did Whitt WANT it to be a calling? Or NOT?

COACHdrn

9/20/19 4:13pm

Whitt would have gone

Solomon Levi

9/20/19 5:19pm

Is it true that Whitt went and talked to President Hinckley when deciding...

COACHdrn

9/21/19 12:41am

I don’t know

Solomon Levi

9/21/19 7:34am

Does anyone else confuse that new logo on his shirt in the preview with Utah State?

scall

9/20/19 10:38am

That’s probably why Utah has started using the state outline as an alternate

ataylor

9/20/19 10:42am

I guess, but the first time I saw it, I thought: hey, why is Kwhitt wearing a Utah State shirt/hoodie thingy.

scall

9/20/19 10:47am

That heading makes it sound like he didn't stay with Utah for the $$$ and we

Plato

9/20/19 10:51am

It was 2004, UU couldn't up the ante enough to make $$ the deciding factor

cougarmeister

9/20/19 11:28am

I have close connections to KW and I know he

58DCougar

9/20/19 12:18pm

I don't fault him for any of it.

Plato

9/20/19 7:41pm

KW deal with BYU was all but done. $$$ wasn't a factor

shakarocks

9/20/19 12:20pm

They also offered him like $300K more.

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 2:34pm

That was a minor factor

shakarocks

9/20/19 2:39pm

Sorry,some of us are not as intimate with him as you are, Ms.Whittingham. Still,

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 4:15pm

300k seems significant at 600k base, much less so

Plato

9/20/19 7:45pm

I'm hoping VaT can lure him away so Bronco will never beat a rival again

Y4LYFE

9/20/19 11:44am

Interesting attitude towards Bronco.

vagabonder

9/20/19 12:15pm

I revel in irony

Y4LYFE

9/20/19 12:37pm

It’s a rival, Bronco doesn’t need KWhitt to stop him.

bluecougar1985

9/20/19 1:41pm

Too bad it wasn’t a calling. Would have been a great coach to have at BYU.

Oat'n'bow

9/20/19 12:19pm

And all the behaviors people whine about as our rival would be praised

MatthiasPhunkHausen

9/20/19 12:51pm

Maybe it was a calling, but he failed the test by not being able to realize that

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 2:25pm

For me personally I have no issues with Whitt..no different than Bronco IMHO....

whiteninja

9/20/19 1:16pm

It is easy as a Cougar fan to hate Kyle. But, we'd probably come to love the guy

Coug Dude

9/20/19 2:18pm

If he were our coach and treated the U the same way, he'd be roundly celebrated.

ebv

9/20/19 2:35pm

I have always thought how much Cougar Nation would love Kyle if here were BYU HC

CT98

9/20/19 4:27pm

Funny thing: Choices worthy of love and respect elicit love and respect.

AZcougLawyer

9/20/19 4:35pm

I’m glad that was handled correctly

Sumguy

9/20/19 2:27pm

I think we did great with a coach until 4 years ago.

coolblue

9/20/19 2:35pm

So he needed the BYU head coaching job to be a paid calling and then he would have accepted?

SpiffCoug

9/20/19 3:31pm

How dumb do you have to be to think BYU HC is a calling?

YIsForBrigham

9/20/19 3:54pm

The BYU coaching job isn’t right for him. He’s too focused on his career and not

Robbinoburrito

9/20/19 6:37pm

I mentioned a while back

Johnny Vatos

9/20/19 9:04pm

The Church wouldn’t ask him to do that. They have standards and such.

Nogi-oshi

9/20/19 10:35pm

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