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cougarbob137

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Firings are not the answer--MWC or AAC is. Flame away, but consider

cougarbob137

9/30/19 3:20pm

The problem is we lose to the G5's like Utah State, Boise, and Toledo

Huge Manatee

9/30/19 3:24pm

Magically by moving to MWC we will start winning those games of course.

JohnnyComeLately

9/30/19 3:25pm

I think BYU does start magically winning those games.

BrobaFett

9/30/19 4:09pm

Point number 7.

cougarbob137

9/30/19 3:25pm

We play Utah State and Boise every year

Huge Manatee

9/30/19 3:26pm

And who we play and when matters.

cougarbob137

9/30/19 3:27pm

You don't make any sense

Huge Manatee

9/30/19 3:28pm

Idiots rarely do

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 4:06pm

Maybe try refuting some of my points instead of name calling.

cougarbob137

9/30/19 4:16pm

Why? You will thumbs down anyone that refutes your points.

crazY

9/30/19 4:20pm

No one has refuted any points. Just saying how much they hate MWC is not an

cougarbob137

9/30/19 4:24pm

One of the big reasons we get good name teams to agree to play us is because we

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 4:30pm

This isn't a good argument. Boise St, Fresno, Navy, and many, many other G5

BrobaFett

9/30/19 4:55pm

You're wrong. Boise and Fresno don't count as a P5 opponent

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 5:17pm

Yes they do.

BrobaFett

9/30/19 7:23pm

Fresno counts for one conference. Boise counts for no conference (per the link)

crazY

9/30/19 7:40pm

Fresno was given a one-time exception for the series with Minnesota. It's not

BYUMizzou

10/1/19 7:42am

Good to know. Thanks!

crazY

10/1/19 11:47am

Your points(s) are to dumb down our schedule so it's easier to win games

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 4:28pm

It is what Alabama does. So, I guess Alabama doesn't know what they are doing

BrobaFett

9/30/19 5:00pm

Alabama plays one if the top 10 toughest schedules in the country every year

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 5:15pm

Lol. Go look at Alabama’s SOS. You have no clue what you’re saying.

BrobaFett

9/30/19 7:24pm

2018: #1 most difficult schedule in the country; 2017: #6 most difficult

BYUMizzou

10/1/19 7:38am

That goes both ways. They can game prep better against us! That sounds really

IceCreamButt

9/30/19 4:09pm

But USC, Tennessee, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan State, Wisconsin, etc

JmThms

9/30/19 3:55pm

Agreed for MWC.

Sooner Cougar

9/30/19 3:26pm

This is a shallow argument made by fans that don't understand football.

Richbyu

9/30/19 3:26pm

Coaching is most likely a part of it, but money, exposure whatever indy promised

cougarbob137

9/30/19 3:30pm

I agree with this. My one argument is that traveling across the country 4 times

BYUheaven

9/30/19 3:32pm

That's a pretty narrow and shallow take, as well as condescending . . .

Sooner Cougar

9/30/19 3:38pm

I agree. There are very few teams that will beat Toledo after playing

BrobaFett

9/30/19 4:14pm

Really? We're comparing playing Toledo with playing LSU and Auburn?

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 4:34pm

Yes. Alabama is the best team out there. How do they play LSU and Auburn?

BrobaFett

9/30/19 5:03pm

You know what. You're a genius. All we need is for the NCAA to change their

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 5:22pm

We were up 14-3 and got outscored 25-7 the rest of the way, with the 7 coming

Faceman

9/30/19 4:40pm

You are darn right I can. 4 P5 games then a road trip across the country? It's

BrobaFett

9/30/19 5:04pm

What? Every P5 team in America will play 4 P5 games in a row then travel.

The Dude Abides

9/30/19 5:14pm

And when they travel for that 5th game, they'll be playing another P5 game, not

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 5:23pm

News Flash: Bama has a stretch of 5 SEC games in a row this year. LSU is the

Faceman

9/30/19 5:38pm

Oh of course! Being in a conference gives our players and coaches super abilities

-C9-

9/30/19 3:30pm

Cougarbob thumbs down incoming...

JohnnyComeLately

9/30/19 3:31pm

Enlighten us on how awesome independence has been

cougarbob137

9/30/19 3:33pm

It’s not been awesome. But there is a reason we left the MWC

JohnnyComeLately

9/30/19 3:34pm

I think it's been a lot of fun.

Belboz

9/30/19 3:34pm

Opponent/coaches familiarity can help lesser coaching staffs

BYUheaven

9/30/19 4:03pm

We’re not losing games because the schedule is more difficult.

ataylor

9/30/19 3:40pm

So in this MWC scenario, we are probably 2-3 right now the same as

The Dude Abides

9/30/19 3:42pm

Because in the MWC, you don't play Tennessee.

BrobaFett

9/30/19 4:16pm

I’m lost. Where does swapping out Tennessee for an FCS mean we get 2 extra wins?

JohnnyComeLately

9/30/19 4:26pm

Easy. Football is a game of attrition. You swap out Tennessee or UW,

BrobaFett

9/30/19 5:06pm

I seriously can’t tell if you are serious or just trolling.

JohnnyComeLately

9/30/19 5:09pm

I think he's serious. He thinks if we schedule our byes better, we will turn

BYUMizzou

9/30/19 5:27pm

It helps us because we are playing for something at this point in the season . .

El Paso Coug

10/1/19 1:01pm

If we aren’t good enough to beat Boise or USU, how are we in a conference race

The Dude Abides

10/1/19 1:31pm

Every team is in a conference race for the first three games of conf. play

El Paso Coug

10/1/19 1:50pm

There are 64 G5 teams in the country. Boise is the outlier. None of the other

BYUMizzou

10/1/19 2:09pm

Um, Harsin is 56-15

B2Y2U

10/1/19 10:15pm

So does Coaching matter or not? I’m confused.

JohnnyComeLately

10/1/19 10:18pm

Culture is most important

B2Y2U

10/1/19 10:36pm

Again how does that change by going to the mountain west?

JohnnyComeLately

10/1/19 10:40pm

That’s right

B2Y2U

10/1/19 10:48pm

Boise State isn't even top ten in winningest programs.

crazY

10/1/19 10:29pm

See chart below

B2Y2U

10/1/19 10:35pm

Highest win percentage is not winningest.

crazY

10/1/19 10:40pm

Ok they have the highest winning percentage

B2Y2U

10/1/19 10:45pm

And yet..nobody cares because they are G5. I am guessing less

The Dude Abides

10/2/19 10:39am

You keep bashing BSU, yet every metric has them better than us

El Paso Coug

10/2/19 10:51am

I keep bashing Boise? Of course they are better than us.

The Dude Abides

10/2/19 10:55am

NO. I won't admit we belong with conference mate institutions such as

JmThms

9/30/19 3:52pm

Why don't we belong with those institutions?

BYUheaven

9/30/19 4:26pm

Read this for examples:

JmThms

9/30/19 5:24pm

No.

LifeLongLakerFan

9/30/19 4:52pm

Dude, you had me at hello. Sitake would have a better record in MWC, but still

BlueForLife

9/30/19 5:05pm

I agree it is time to abandon independence. It is not attracting p5 caliber

ohiocougar

9/30/19 5:37pm

Neither MWC nor AAC will allow BYU to attract more P5 talent.

JmThms

9/30/19 7:42pm

RE: Firings are not the answer--MWC or AAC is. Flame away, but consider

Resurgens

9/30/19 6:50pm

Like a dog to its vomit? No thanks.

Division Bell

9/30/19 7:44pm

One thing to point out is that BYU Football became the BYU Football we all know

Cosmo4Pres

10/1/19 11:01am

HAHAHAHAHA...wait! You're serious?!

BYUHgrad

10/1/19 11:05am

We literally just lost to Toledo and you think going back to the MWC will make

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