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crazY
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Fresno counts for one conference. Boise counts for no conference (per the link)
and BYU counts for every conference. BYU would not count for every conference if they were in the MWC.
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Firings are not the answer--MWC or AAC is. Flame away, but consider
cougarbob137
9/30/19 3:20pm
The problem is we lose to the G5's like Utah State, Boise, and Toledo
Huge Manatee
9/30/19 3:24pm
Magically by moving to MWC we will start winning those games of course.
JohnnyComeLately
9/30/19 3:25pm
I think BYU does start magically winning those games.
BrobaFett
9/30/19 4:09pm
Point number 7.
cougarbob137
9/30/19 3:25pm
We play Utah State and Boise every year
Huge Manatee
9/30/19 3:26pm
And who we play and when matters.
cougarbob137
9/30/19 3:27pm
You don't make any sense
Huge Manatee
9/30/19 3:28pm
Idiots rarely do
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 4:06pm
Maybe try refuting some of my points instead of name calling.
cougarbob137
9/30/19 4:16pm
Why? You will thumbs down anyone that refutes your points.
crazY
9/30/19 4:20pm
No one has refuted any points. Just saying how much they hate MWC is not an
cougarbob137
9/30/19 4:24pm
One of the big reasons we get good name teams to agree to play us is because we
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 4:30pm
This isn't a good argument. Boise St, Fresno, Navy, and many, many other G5
BrobaFett
9/30/19 4:55pm
You're wrong. Boise and Fresno don't count as a P5 opponent
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 5:17pm
Yes they do.
BrobaFett
9/30/19 7:23pm
Fresno counts for one conference. Boise counts for no conference (per the link)
crazY
9/30/19 7:40pm
Fresno was given a one-time exception for the series with Minnesota. It's not
BYUMizzou
10/1/19 7:42am
Good to know. Thanks!
crazY
10/1/19 11:47am
Your points(s) are to dumb down our schedule so it's easier to win games
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 4:28pm
It is what Alabama does. So, I guess Alabama doesn't know what they are doing
BrobaFett
9/30/19 5:00pm
Alabama plays one if the top 10 toughest schedules in the country every year
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 5:15pm
Lol. Go look at Alabama’s SOS. You have no clue what you’re saying.
BrobaFett
9/30/19 7:24pm
2018: #1 most difficult schedule in the country; 2017: #6 most difficult
BYUMizzou
10/1/19 7:38am
That goes both ways. They can game prep better against us! That sounds really
IceCreamButt
9/30/19 4:09pm
But USC, Tennessee, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan State, Wisconsin, etc
JmThms
9/30/19 3:55pm
Agreed for MWC.
Sooner Cougar
9/30/19 3:26pm
This is a shallow argument made by fans that don't understand football.
Richbyu
9/30/19 3:26pm
Coaching is most likely a part of it, but money, exposure whatever indy promised
cougarbob137
9/30/19 3:30pm
I agree with this. My one argument is that traveling across the country 4 times
BYUheaven
9/30/19 3:32pm
That's a pretty narrow and shallow take, as well as condescending . . .
Sooner Cougar
9/30/19 3:38pm
I agree. There are very few teams that will beat Toledo after playing
BrobaFett
9/30/19 4:14pm
Really? We're comparing playing Toledo with playing LSU and Auburn?
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 4:34pm
Yes. Alabama is the best team out there. How do they play LSU and Auburn?
BrobaFett
9/30/19 5:03pm
You know what. You're a genius. All we need is for the NCAA to change their
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 5:22pm
We were up 14-3 and got outscored 25-7 the rest of the way, with the 7 coming
Faceman
9/30/19 4:40pm
You are darn right I can. 4 P5 games then a road trip across the country? It's
BrobaFett
9/30/19 5:04pm
What? Every P5 team in America will play 4 P5 games in a row then travel.
The Dude Abides
9/30/19 5:14pm
And when they travel for that 5th game, they'll be playing another P5 game, not
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 5:23pm
News Flash: Bama has a stretch of 5 SEC games in a row this year. LSU is the
Faceman
9/30/19 5:38pm
Oh of course! Being in a conference gives our players and coaches super abilities
-C9-
9/30/19 3:30pm
Cougarbob thumbs down incoming...
JohnnyComeLately
9/30/19 3:31pm
Enlighten us on how awesome independence has been
cougarbob137
9/30/19 3:33pm
It’s not been awesome. But there is a reason we left the MWC
JohnnyComeLately
9/30/19 3:34pm
I think it's been a lot of fun.
Belboz
9/30/19 3:34pm
Opponent/coaches familiarity can help lesser coaching staffs
BYUheaven
9/30/19 4:03pm
We’re not losing games because the schedule is more difficult.
ataylor
9/30/19 3:40pm
So in this MWC scenario, we are probably 2-3 right now the same as
The Dude Abides
9/30/19 3:42pm
Because in the MWC, you don't play Tennessee.
BrobaFett
9/30/19 4:16pm
I’m lost. Where does swapping out Tennessee for an FCS mean we get 2 extra wins?
JohnnyComeLately
9/30/19 4:26pm
Easy. Football is a game of attrition. You swap out Tennessee or UW,
BrobaFett
9/30/19 5:06pm
I seriously can’t tell if you are serious or just trolling.
JohnnyComeLately
9/30/19 5:09pm
I think he's serious. He thinks if we schedule our byes better, we will turn
BYUMizzou
9/30/19 5:27pm
It helps us because we are playing for something at this point in the season . .
El Paso Coug
10/1/19 1:01pm
If we aren’t good enough to beat Boise or USU, how are we in a conference race
The Dude Abides
10/1/19 1:31pm
Every team is in a conference race for the first three games of conf. play
El Paso Coug
10/1/19 1:50pm
There are 64 G5 teams in the country. Boise is the outlier. None of the other
BYUMizzou
10/1/19 2:09pm
Um, Harsin is 56-15
B2Y2U
10/1/19 10:15pm
So does Coaching matter or not? I’m confused.
JohnnyComeLately
10/1/19 10:18pm
Culture is most important
B2Y2U
10/1/19 10:36pm
Again how does that change by going to the mountain west?
JohnnyComeLately
10/1/19 10:40pm
That’s right
B2Y2U
10/1/19 10:48pm
Boise State isn't even top ten in winningest programs.
crazY
10/1/19 10:29pm
See chart below
B2Y2U
10/1/19 10:35pm
Highest win percentage is not winningest.
crazY
10/1/19 10:40pm
Ok they have the highest winning percentage
B2Y2U
10/1/19 10:45pm
And yet..nobody cares because they are G5. I am guessing less
The Dude Abides
10/2/19 10:39am
You keep bashing BSU, yet every metric has them better than us
El Paso Coug
10/2/19 10:51am
I keep bashing Boise? Of course they are better than us.
The Dude Abides
10/2/19 10:55am
NO. I won't admit we belong with conference mate institutions such as
JmThms
9/30/19 3:52pm
Why don't we belong with those institutions?
BYUheaven
9/30/19 4:26pm
Read this for examples:
JmThms
9/30/19 5:24pm
No.
LifeLongLakerFan
9/30/19 4:52pm
Dude, you had me at hello. Sitake would have a better record in MWC, but still
BlueForLife
9/30/19 5:05pm
I agree it is time to abandon independence. It is not attracting p5 caliber
ohiocougar
9/30/19 5:37pm
Neither MWC nor AAC will allow BYU to attract more P5 talent.
JmThms
9/30/19 7:42pm
RE: Firings are not the answer--MWC or AAC is. Flame away, but consider
Resurgens
9/30/19 6:50pm
Like a dog to its vomit? No thanks.
Division Bell
9/30/19 7:44pm
One thing to point out is that BYU Football became the BYU Football we all know
Cosmo4Pres
10/1/19 11:01am
HAHAHAHAHA...wait! You're serious?!
BYUHgrad
10/1/19 11:05am
We literally just lost to Toledo and you think going back to the MWC will make
kimdaddy35
10/3/19 4:20pm
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