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Oct 8, 2019
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Quarterback Injuries Have Decimated BYU Football

dchandle15

10/7/19 11:22pm

Good article and insight

2FarGone

10/7/19 11:34pm

At what point do we say "this isn't just bad luck, we need to change something?"

Beans

10/7/19 11:44pm

Hard to say what to change. We’ve had four OCs running five different systems

dchandle15

10/8/19 12:02am

Yep, poor o-line play has been the denominator with S&C playing a minor role.

Beans

10/8/19 12:05am

QBs "running for their lives": Would have to agree w/ this. Videos prove it.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:51am

Know what I remember about 2006-2009? QBs that rarely left the pocket who were

crack

10/7/19 11:54pm

Running QB's get injured. Even mangum's injury was because he ran.

Beans

10/7/19 11:59pm

What injury did Mangum have? We've had so many I can't remember. ACL?

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:52am

torn achilles tendon

cwilke1

10/8/19 11:32am

Thx. I think as a person he is phenomenal. As a QB his Sr year I think he....

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 3:56pm

I think it’s also when they ran, rather than if they ran

dchandle15

10/8/19 12:14am

For as many games as Max played, 200 yds is superb. Meaning, 200 yds is low...

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:54am

Agreed! 200 rushing yards in a season is an ideal number!

dchandle15

10/8/19 9:06am

Umm, I remember Max Hall running and never, ever sliding, even taking some big

mwcoug

10/8/19 4:16am

I also remember him getting smashed from the blindside at least once per game.

Hambone

10/8/19 6:13am

And somehow he survived all of that whereas other QBs didn't

mwcoug

10/8/19 6:38am

Just barely.

kudzucoug

10/8/19 7:55am

He kinda survived. He had a stage 3 shoulder separation at one point.

Bovine University

10/8/19 11:18am

As opposed to Taysom getting hit multiple times per game.

Brigham

10/8/19 6:39am

I've been saying this for years. If QBs stayed healthy Bronco is probably

Y05

10/8/19 3:43am

That is so wrong. Tanner and Taysom were not D1 quarterbacks.

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:25am

They literally were D1 quarterbacks.

ataylor

10/8/19 7:12am

Taysom is a LB or Safety. Tanner would have struggled to play at most FCS school

Backcountry

10/8/19 7:13am

Taysom Hill is an NFL quarterback. Tanner Mangum was an elite recruit whose

ataylor

10/8/19 7:20am

Did you just say that Taysom Hill is an NFL QB? With a straight face?

Backcountry

10/8/19 7:28am

I did. He is literally an NFL quarterback.

ataylor

10/8/19 7:31am

And Charlie Weis is a D1 head coach

Backcountry

10/8/19 7:41am

Not at the moment — hasn’t coached for 4–5 years

ataylor

10/8/19 7:43am

Sean Payton seems to disagree with you, and he's a pretty good judge I'd say

BYUfan92

10/8/19 4:16pm

2014 Taysom had us 4-0 and I believe wouldve led a comeback over USU

Jimmerfan32

10/8/19 7:27am

The 2 teams were just trading TD's at the point he got injured

stansburycoug

10/8/19 11:32am

RE: The 2 teams were just trading TD's at the point he got injured

Backcountry

10/8/19 11:41am

RE: Taysom is a LB or Safety. Tanner would have struggled to play at most FCS school

TheLoneCougar

10/8/19 8:12am

Yet, as a true frosh fresh off a mission Bronco/Anae were able to win 9 games

Y05

10/8/19 8:47am

You're kidding, right? I mean I shake my head at your comment. I'm not....

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:58am

2014, 2015 and 2016 say otherwise for Taysom. His results were excellent.

Turnpike Lane

10/8/19 10:34am

Taysom is good enough to play qb in the NFL but not good enough for college?

Bovine University

10/8/19 11:20am

Taysom is nowhere near good enough to play QB in the NFL

Backcountry

10/8/19 11:29am

Do you watch the NFL? I mean, he's literally played qb in the NFL...

Bovine University

10/8/19 12:41pm

Come on Backcountry. Taysom Hill not a D1 QB? How can you state this just 1 week

cougaman

10/8/19 11:58am

Worst post of the year. Or funniest.

RalphWiggam

10/9/19 12:39am

Change that to *if Bronco recruited a half decent OL*

HONOMO

10/8/19 11:50am

Personally, I think the William's injury is bigger than the Wilson.

whiteninja

10/8/19 4:58am

Maybe the issue is the type of offense. Anae 1.0 protected the quarterback.

Brigham

10/8/19 6:15am

Anae 1.0 is the perfect O for BYU

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:25am

It allowed a double high ankle sprained John neck to throw for over 3,000 yards

1984coug

10/8/19 6:58am

I disagree with multiple points

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:20am

Could it be that our offense hasn’t called for that?

Brigham

10/8/19 6:30am

Christian Stewart was the best QB of the last decade.

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:42am

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Brigham

10/8/19 6:49am

Maybe.

Shore10

10/8/19 7:42am

Care to elaborate?

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 8:42am

Sure.

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:46am

It's arguable. He played against really weak competition and only for one season

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 8:56am

Gee, thanks for all the overwhelming evidence. Gotta do better than that.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 9:08am

Who do you think I am? Indycoug?

Backcountry

10/8/19 9:15am

I think ZW throwing aggressively will be good for the program

puntersarepeople

10/8/19 4:17pm

What about the Conover kid on a mission right now? Is he NFL type QB?

Y05

10/8/19 8:46pm

“BYU hasnt recruited anything even approaching an NFL quarterback in 15 years.”

ataylor

10/8/19 7:59am

I see a former BYU player that primarily plays special teams, and occasionally

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:04am

Then you’re not seeing correctly. He primarily plays quarterback and that’s

ataylor

10/8/19 8:08am

He is a freak athlete. It's why he is in the league. Not because he is a QB.

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:09am

Those two things are not mutually exclusive. The fact is that he’s an athletic

ataylor

10/8/19 8:17am

How many games has he started at QB?

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:18am

I don’t think he’s started any games. Careful — those goalposts you’re about to

ataylor

10/8/19 8:22am

Umm being a backup to Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers kind of makes that difficult

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 8:43am

Teddy Bridgewater?

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:47am

The Saints must be very stupid

stansburycoug

10/8/19 9:52am

Isn't Bridgewater also a former pro-bowler and highest paid backup QB in the NFL

SMITTY

10/8/19 1:44pm

That’s nothing, the broncos decided not to carry any nfl QBs this season, again

USMCdad

10/8/19 1:57pm

Who needs a good QB anyway? That’s the Ute’s MO.

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 4:15pm

So last year before Flacco got hurt Lamar Jackson was not a QB because he was

Broda

10/8/19 8:56am

Argument over. Boooom!

ThorLebowski

10/8/19 8:21pm

Quick fact check

Mr Bassman

10/8/19 7:05am

You’re correct about 2016, Hill did start that 12th game. My mistake. Thanks!

dchandle15

10/8/19 7:55am

Just glad to help 😃

Mr Bassman

10/8/19 9:28am

Stark. Blunt. Brutally honest. Big sigh of sadness. Ugh....

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:45am

Didn't watch the last game. Zach got hurt making a tackle after a pick?

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:49am

It's been a mix between that and coaching in my opinion...

Coug

10/8/19 9:01am

Completely agree. Coaching will always play a part in performance.

dchandle15

10/8/19 9:17am

The problem is Zach injured his hand making a tackle after the interception

pappabear246

10/8/19 9:20am

And, in the long run, we would have been better off.

Brigham

10/8/19 10:56am

BYU is 2-3 this season with a healthy QB

run26

10/8/19 2:14pm

BYU was 2-2 with a QB coming off an injury. Zach did not look the same.

dchandle15

10/8/19 2:44pm

Now apply that same logic to what Ty did with a 70%THill who o ly had

CarolinaCoug

10/8/19 3:14pm

Nice try but

run26

10/8/19 6:37pm

Great point. My contention: He was never back to 100% healthy.

dchandle15

10/9/19 12:51am

You might be right

run26

10/9/19 8:09am

But is the fact that the game was close on Zach or the coaches or other

pappabear246

10/9/19 10:02am

Had they just allowed him to score we would have had more time on the

pappabear246

10/9/19 10:00am

Maybe Jake Heaps is the wiser QB then? Look what it cost us, and him.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 3:58pm

Were those teams good because the QB was healthy or was the QB healthy because

Pablo Bot

10/8/19 1:50pm

Which blog?

MikeDitka'sStache

10/8/19 2:55pm

Currently going through a re-vamp with it, along with a new domain

dchandle15

10/8/19 3:14pm

FWIW, your article was excellent. Very good analysis.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 3:59pm

Yep....and fire Detmer while we're at it!

Borg

10/8/19 4:09pm

The more I watch Brady, or Brees, the more I think they have identified that

BYUfan92

10/8/19 4:21pm

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