Do you watch the NFL? I mean, he's literally played qb in the NFL...

Oct 8, 2019
12:41:12pm

Bovine University All-American

I'm not sure what a person has to do to qualify as an NFL qb in your book but to line up and throw passes in an NFL game and be listed on an NFL roster as a QB seem like pretty reasonable qualifiers to me.

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Quarterback Injuries Have Decimated BYU Football

dchandle15

10/7/19 11:22pm

Good article and insight

2FarGone

10/7/19 11:34pm

At what point do we say "this isn't just bad luck, we need to change something?"

Beans

10/7/19 11:44pm

Hard to say what to change. We’ve had four OCs running five different systems

dchandle15

10/8/19 12:02am

Yep, poor o-line play has been the denominator with S&C playing a minor role.

Beans

10/8/19 12:05am

QBs "running for their lives": Would have to agree w/ this. Videos prove it.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:51am

Know what I remember about 2006-2009? QBs that rarely left the pocket who were

crack

10/7/19 11:54pm

Running QB's get injured. Even mangum's injury was because he ran.

Beans

10/7/19 11:59pm

What injury did Mangum have? We've had so many I can't remember. ACL?

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:52am

torn achilles tendon

cwilke1

10/8/19 11:32am

Thx. I think as a person he is phenomenal. As a QB his Sr year I think he....

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 3:56pm

I think it’s also when they ran, rather than if they ran

dchandle15

10/8/19 12:14am

For as many games as Max played, 200 yds is superb. Meaning, 200 yds is low...

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:54am

Agreed! 200 rushing yards in a season is an ideal number!

dchandle15

10/8/19 9:06am

Umm, I remember Max Hall running and never, ever sliding, even taking some big

mwcoug

10/8/19 4:16am

I also remember him getting smashed from the blindside at least once per game.

Hambone

10/8/19 6:13am

And somehow he survived all of that whereas other QBs didn't

mwcoug

10/8/19 6:38am

Just barely.

kudzucoug

10/8/19 7:55am

He kinda survived. He had a stage 3 shoulder separation at one point.

Bovine University

10/8/19 11:18am

As opposed to Taysom getting hit multiple times per game.

Brigham

10/8/19 6:39am

I've been saying this for years. If QBs stayed healthy Bronco is probably

Y05

10/8/19 3:43am

That is so wrong. Tanner and Taysom were not D1 quarterbacks.

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:25am

They literally were D1 quarterbacks.

ataylor

10/8/19 7:12am

Taysom is a LB or Safety. Tanner would have struggled to play at most FCS school

Backcountry

10/8/19 7:13am

Taysom Hill is an NFL quarterback. Tanner Mangum was an elite recruit whose

ataylor

10/8/19 7:20am

Did you just say that Taysom Hill is an NFL QB? With a straight face?

Backcountry

10/8/19 7:28am

I did. He is literally an NFL quarterback.

ataylor

10/8/19 7:31am

And Charlie Weis is a D1 head coach

Backcountry

10/8/19 7:41am

Not at the moment — hasn’t coached for 4–5 years

ataylor

10/8/19 7:43am

Sean Payton seems to disagree with you, and he's a pretty good judge I'd say

BYUfan92

10/8/19 4:16pm

2014 Taysom had us 4-0 and I believe wouldve led a comeback over USU

Jimmerfan32

10/8/19 7:27am

The 2 teams were just trading TD's at the point he got injured

stansburycoug

10/8/19 11:32am

RE: The 2 teams were just trading TD's at the point he got injured

Backcountry

10/8/19 11:41am

RE: Taysom is a LB or Safety. Tanner would have struggled to play at most FCS school

TheLoneCougar

10/8/19 8:12am

Yet, as a true frosh fresh off a mission Bronco/Anae were able to win 9 games

Y05

10/8/19 8:47am

You're kidding, right? I mean I shake my head at your comment. I'm not....

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:58am

2014, 2015 and 2016 say otherwise for Taysom. His results were excellent.

Turnpike Lane

10/8/19 10:34am

Taysom is good enough to play qb in the NFL but not good enough for college?

Bovine University

10/8/19 11:20am

Taysom is nowhere near good enough to play QB in the NFL

Backcountry

10/8/19 11:29am

Do you watch the NFL? I mean, he's literally played qb in the NFL...

Bovine University

10/8/19 12:41pm

Come on Backcountry. Taysom Hill not a D1 QB? How can you state this just 1 week

cougaman

10/8/19 11:58am

Worst post of the year. Or funniest.

RalphWiggam

10/9/19 12:39am

Change that to *if Bronco recruited a half decent OL*

HONOMO

10/8/19 11:50am

Personally, I think the William's injury is bigger than the Wilson.

whiteninja

10/8/19 4:58am

Maybe the issue is the type of offense. Anae 1.0 protected the quarterback.

Brigham

10/8/19 6:15am

Anae 1.0 is the perfect O for BYU

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:25am

It allowed a double high ankle sprained John neck to throw for over 3,000 yards

1984coug

10/8/19 6:58am

I disagree with multiple points

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:20am

Could it be that our offense hasn’t called for that?

Brigham

10/8/19 6:30am

Christian Stewart was the best QB of the last decade.

Backcountry

10/8/19 6:42am

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Brigham

10/8/19 6:49am

Maybe.

Shore10

10/8/19 7:42am

Care to elaborate?

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 8:42am

Sure.

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:46am

It's arguable. He played against really weak competition and only for one season

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 8:56am

Gee, thanks for all the overwhelming evidence. Gotta do better than that.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 9:08am

Who do you think I am? Indycoug?

Backcountry

10/8/19 9:15am

I think ZW throwing aggressively will be good for the program

puntersarepeople

10/8/19 4:17pm

What about the Conover kid on a mission right now? Is he NFL type QB?

Y05

10/8/19 8:46pm

“BYU hasnt recruited anything even approaching an NFL quarterback in 15 years.”

ataylor

10/8/19 7:59am

I see a former BYU player that primarily plays special teams, and occasionally

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:04am

Then you’re not seeing correctly. He primarily plays quarterback and that’s

ataylor

10/8/19 8:08am

He is a freak athlete. It's why he is in the league. Not because he is a QB.

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:09am

Those two things are not mutually exclusive. The fact is that he’s an athletic

ataylor

10/8/19 8:17am

How many games has he started at QB?

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:18am

I don’t think he’s started any games. Careful — those goalposts you’re about to

ataylor

10/8/19 8:22am

Umm being a backup to Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers kind of makes that difficult

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 8:43am

Teddy Bridgewater?

Backcountry

10/8/19 8:47am

The Saints must be very stupid

stansburycoug

10/8/19 9:52am

Isn't Bridgewater also a former pro-bowler and highest paid backup QB in the NFL

SMITTY

10/8/19 1:44pm

That’s nothing, the broncos decided not to carry any nfl QBs this season, again

USMCdad

10/8/19 1:57pm

Who needs a good QB anyway? That’s the Ute’s MO.

D.T. Survivor

10/8/19 4:15pm

So last year before Flacco got hurt Lamar Jackson was not a QB because he was

Broda

10/8/19 8:56am

Argument over. Boooom!

ThorLebowski

10/8/19 8:21pm

Quick fact check

Mr Bassman

10/8/19 7:05am

You’re correct about 2016, Hill did start that 12th game. My mistake. Thanks!

dchandle15

10/8/19 7:55am

Just glad to help 😃

Mr Bassman

10/8/19 9:28am

Stark. Blunt. Brutally honest. Big sigh of sadness. Ugh....

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:45am

Didn't watch the last game. Zach got hurt making a tackle after a pick?

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 8:49am

It's been a mix between that and coaching in my opinion...

Coug

10/8/19 9:01am

Completely agree. Coaching will always play a part in performance.

dchandle15

10/8/19 9:17am

The problem is Zach injured his hand making a tackle after the interception

pappabear246

10/8/19 9:20am

And, in the long run, we would have been better off.

Brigham

10/8/19 10:56am

BYU is 2-3 this season with a healthy QB

run26

10/8/19 2:14pm

BYU was 2-2 with a QB coming off an injury. Zach did not look the same.

dchandle15

10/8/19 2:44pm

Now apply that same logic to what Ty did with a 70%THill who o ly had

CarolinaCoug

10/8/19 3:14pm

Nice try but

run26

10/8/19 6:37pm

Great point. My contention: He was never back to 100% healthy.

dchandle15

10/9/19 12:51am

You might be right

run26

10/9/19 8:09am

But is the fact that the game was close on Zach or the coaches or other

pappabear246

10/9/19 10:02am

Had they just allowed him to score we would have had more time on the

pappabear246

10/9/19 10:00am

Maybe Jake Heaps is the wiser QB then? Look what it cost us, and him.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 3:58pm

Were those teams good because the QB was healthy or was the QB healthy because

Pablo Bot

10/8/19 1:50pm

Which blog?

MikeDitka'sStache

10/8/19 2:55pm

Currently going through a re-vamp with it, along with a new domain

dchandle15

10/8/19 3:14pm

FWIW, your article was excellent. Very good analysis.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/8/19 3:59pm

Yep....and fire Detmer while we're at it!

Borg

10/8/19 4:09pm

The more I watch Brady, or Brees, the more I think they have identified that

BYUfan92

10/8/19 4:21pm

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