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Nov 11, 2019
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Gustav
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Setting aside the fact that they'd already been in umpteen movies, those
Decisions were contract-driven and decided on a corporate level.
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Feige's terrible response to Scorcese's complaint that Marvel doesn't take risks
Gustav
11/11/19 2:27pm
Feige is spot on and correct.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:28pm
Feige is a moron. A very wealthy moron
TNT
11/11/19 2:29pm
Ok. Doesn't change the fact that he was correct here.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:30pm
He could hardly have more clearly made Scorcese's point for Scorsese
Gustav
11/11/19 2:30pm
Ok Boomer.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:31pm
Ok Boomer.
MikeDitka'sStache
11/11/19 2:31pm
Ok Chris Berman
rcbyufan
11/11/19 2:36pm
Lol. Those weren't risks. In both cases outcomes were reversed.
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 2:39pm
Reversed? Nope. Adjusted? Yes, at a high cost to the characters.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:44pm
Sure but where is the "risk"? There was no risk.
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 2:46pm
Where is the risk in any movie?
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:49pm
Stories that aren't based on successful formula for making cash
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 2:56pm
So a writer who has studied literature can't make art? Or a filmmaker who went
BYUtka
11/11/19 3:10pm
Again. My comments are NOT about the quality of the art
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 3:17pm
By your definition the Marvel movies were higher risk, because the financial
BYUtka
11/11/19 3:28pm
I think you know what I meant.
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 3:38pm
And what is that formula? Because each film is very different.
BYUtka
11/11/19 4:04pm
RE: So a writer who has studied literature can't make art? Or a filmmaker who
messi
11/11/19 3:28pm
Explore in the Spiderman movie that was actually a teenage rom/com?
Baron
11/11/19 2:50pm
*SMH* Now you are clearly just trying to troll everyone.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:53pm
Nope. That is legit what it was.
Baron
11/11/19 2:54pm
Did they not kill half of the characters at the end of the movie?
IceBlueCoug
11/11/19 2:30pm
And where was the risk in it considering they brought them all back?
Gustav
11/11/19 2:31pm
What's the difference with that and Jason Bourne or MI movies?
RSL
11/11/19 2:34pm
Nobody proclaims Bourne or MI as great cinematic masterpieces. They are fun
OlanchoCoug
11/11/19 2:38pm
The individual films may not be a great cinematic achievement but creating a 22 cohesive film universe that has grossed
IceBlueCoug
11/11/19 2:45pm
And many of those films are great. They ask difficult and relevant questions in
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:57pm
Bashing those isn't 'cool' like pretending to hate popular Marvel movies is.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:38pm
Bourne and Hunt are functionally superheros in various ways
Gustav
11/11/19 2:39pm
Very little difference. It's a tried and true approach. Hence: not risky.
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 3:01pm
Signed Vision, Black Widow and IronMan...
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:35pm
SPOILER ALERT
Thrill
11/11/19 3:24pm
Why, in your opinion, is it a terrible response?
BigTex
11/11/19 2:30pm
Because everyone knew they were coming back . . .
Gustav
11/11/19 2:34pm
Hard core fans did, but casual fans did not
BigTex
11/11/19 2:38pm
Killed half the characters is such a dumb point since they didn't die and
Baron
11/11/19 2:31pm
Also what risk did they take and what different place did they go? The whole
Baron
11/11/19 2:34pm
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JimmyZ
11/11/19 2:35pm
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JimmyZ
11/11/19 2:34pm
What about Endgame where they killed off or retired 3 headliners?
BigTex
11/11/19 2:35pm
Spoiler alert. Okay. I know of at least one of the three but not sure what
Baron
11/11/19 2:38pm
Did you even watch Endgame?
BigTex
11/11/19 2:43pm
I am not the one trying to justify the dumb comment mentioned in the OP.
Baron
11/11/19 2:47pm
Whoa, whoa now! No need to bring out the fecal references.
Troy McClure
11/11/19 3:08pm
Setting aside the fact that they'd already been in umpteen movies, those
Gustav
11/11/19 2:40pm
That's a cynical thing to say
BigTex
11/11/19 2:46pm
Is it a risk when an actor retires from a role?
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 2:44pm
Let's also not pretend they are anything less than they are either.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:46pm
Right. They are supremely entertaining amusement parks. I think he's right.
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 2:47pm
As well as good Cinema. They accomplish a lot.
BYUtka
11/11/19 2:51pm
Apparently basing your movies on a novel is cinema, but basing them on
DapperDan
11/11/19 2:34pm
Strawman.
The Dark Knight
11/11/19 2:49pm
No, it's Scarecrow
DapperDan
11/11/19 2:52pm
Not true, but unlikely to be cinema if based on a PowerPoint slide
Gustav
11/11/19 2:51pm
It's not like Scorcese is really taking any big risks with his movies of late
DapperDan
11/11/19 2:59pm
Maybe that's a good complaint, I don't know.
Belboz
11/11/19 2:35pm
I think Feige is really stretching here to make a point.
Philosoraptor
11/11/19 3:11pm
Scorcese is gatekeeping and any argument is just going to embolden the argument.
shimmy
11/11/19 3:43pm
Scorcese is just reacting to what is popular. It always happens. It's a human
vegasnative
11/11/19 5:29pm
And Scorcese never knows who he wants to survive so he just kills everyone at the end of his movies.
SpiffCoug
11/11/19 6:10pm
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