Scorcese is gatekeeping and any argument is just going to embolden the argument.

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Nov 11, 2019
3:43:47pm

shimmy All-American

I think cinema encapsulates all sorts of movies. Scorcese (who I love) disagrees.

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Feige's terrible response to Scorcese's complaint that Marvel doesn't take risks

Gustav

11/11/19 2:27pm

Feige is spot on and correct.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:28pm

Feige is a moron. A very wealthy moron

TNT

11/11/19 2:29pm

Ok. Doesn't change the fact that he was correct here.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:30pm

He could hardly have more clearly made Scorcese's point for Scorsese

Gustav

11/11/19 2:30pm

Ok Boomer.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:31pm

Ok Boomer.

MikeDitka'sStache

11/11/19 2:31pm

Ok Chris Berman

rcbyufan

11/11/19 2:36pm

Lol. Those weren't risks. In both cases outcomes were reversed.

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 2:39pm

Reversed? Nope. Adjusted? Yes, at a high cost to the characters.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:44pm

Sure but where is the "risk"? There was no risk.

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 2:46pm

Where is the risk in any movie?

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:49pm

Stories that aren't based on successful formula for making cash

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 2:56pm

So a writer who has studied literature can't make art? Or a filmmaker who went

BYUtka

11/11/19 3:10pm

Again. My comments are NOT about the quality of the art

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 3:17pm

By your definition the Marvel movies were higher risk, because the financial

BYUtka

11/11/19 3:28pm

I think you know what I meant.

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 3:38pm

And what is that formula? Because each film is very different.

BYUtka

11/11/19 4:04pm

RE: So a writer who has studied literature can't make art? Or a filmmaker who

messi

11/11/19 3:28pm

Explore in the Spiderman movie that was actually a teenage rom/com?

Baron

11/11/19 2:50pm

*SMH* Now you are clearly just trying to troll everyone.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:53pm

Nope. That is legit what it was.

Baron

11/11/19 2:54pm

Did they not kill half of the characters at the end of the movie?

IceBlueCoug

11/11/19 2:30pm

And where was the risk in it considering they brought them all back?

Gustav

11/11/19 2:31pm

What's the difference with that and Jason Bourne or MI movies?

RSL

11/11/19 2:34pm

Nobody proclaims Bourne or MI as great cinematic masterpieces. They are fun

OlanchoCoug

11/11/19 2:38pm

The individual films may not be a great cinematic achievement but creating a 22 cohesive film universe that has grossed

IceBlueCoug

11/11/19 2:45pm

And many of those films are great. They ask difficult and relevant questions in

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:57pm

Bashing those isn't 'cool' like pretending to hate popular Marvel movies is.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:38pm

Bourne and Hunt are functionally superheros in various ways

Gustav

11/11/19 2:39pm

Very little difference. It's a tried and true approach. Hence: not risky.

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 3:01pm

Signed Vision, Black Widow and IronMan...

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:35pm

SPOILER ALERT

Thrill

11/11/19 3:24pm

Why, in your opinion, is it a terrible response?

BigTex

11/11/19 2:30pm

Because everyone knew they were coming back . . .

Gustav

11/11/19 2:34pm

Hard core fans did, but casual fans did not

BigTex

11/11/19 2:38pm

Killed half the characters is such a dumb point since they didn't die and

Baron

11/11/19 2:31pm

Also what risk did they take and what different place did they go? The whole

Baron

11/11/19 2:34pm

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JimmyZ

11/11/19 2:35pm

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JimmyZ

11/11/19 2:34pm

What about Endgame where they killed off or retired 3 headliners?

BigTex

11/11/19 2:35pm

Spoiler alert. Okay. I know of at least one of the three but not sure what

Baron

11/11/19 2:38pm

Did you even watch Endgame?

BigTex

11/11/19 2:43pm

I am not the one trying to justify the dumb comment mentioned in the OP.

Baron

11/11/19 2:47pm

Whoa, whoa now! No need to bring out the fecal references.

Troy McClure

11/11/19 3:08pm

Setting aside the fact that they'd already been in umpteen movies, those

Gustav

11/11/19 2:40pm

That's a cynical thing to say

BigTex

11/11/19 2:46pm

Is it a risk when an actor retires from a role?

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 2:44pm

Let's also not pretend they are anything less than they are either.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:46pm

Right. They are supremely entertaining amusement parks. I think he's right.

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 2:47pm

As well as good Cinema. They accomplish a lot.

BYUtka

11/11/19 2:51pm

Apparently basing your movies on a novel is cinema, but basing them on

DapperDan

11/11/19 2:34pm

Strawman.

The Dark Knight

11/11/19 2:49pm

No, it's Scarecrow

DapperDan

11/11/19 2:52pm

Not true, but unlikely to be cinema if based on a PowerPoint slide

Gustav

11/11/19 2:51pm

It's not like Scorcese is really taking any big risks with his movies of late

DapperDan

11/11/19 2:59pm

Maybe that's a good complaint, I don't know.

Belboz

11/11/19 2:35pm

I think Feige is really stretching here to make a point.

Philosoraptor

11/11/19 3:11pm

Scorcese is gatekeeping and any argument is just going to embolden the argument.

shimmy

11/11/19 3:43pm

Scorcese is just reacting to what is popular. It always happens. It's a human

vegasnative

11/11/19 5:29pm

And Scorcese never knows who he wants to survive so he just kills everyone at the end of his movies.

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