I'm willing to give him another year. Steve Cleveland brought in guys...

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Nov 14, 2019
12:16:43pm

bluefish All-American

...from all over right away, and it didn't take him years to do it.

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bluefish

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Pope has got to increase the talent level. Recent signees not going to get us...

bluefish

11/14/19 11:51am

BYU has the talent. Great additions from UVU. But we're cursed (Childs/Wade/Baxter).

mulletino

11/14/19 11:52am

yeah, looking at a more athletic suu team was demoralizing.

jwf

11/14/19 11:52am

All teams are more athletic than this team besides BYU's 1 and 26

Archaea

11/14/19 11:57am

Yep - we need to find a Keena Young type player. His recruiting has left

Dangerous

11/14/19 11:53am

"His recruiting has left a lot to desire"?! The guy has had the job for a total of 7 months. Good heavens.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:01pm

Sign Maddy against Michigan State 😮 ?

Archaea

11/14/19 12:03pm

Well yeah, that sure would be nice. But having an expectation that our 7-month coach is going to win a recruiting battle

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:06pm

You don't read sarcasm very well. I give Pope a complete pass this year

Archaea

11/14/19 12:11pm

Yeah, we have a lot of very good players. Unfortunately, 5 of them can't play due to injury or RS.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 3:26pm

Take the five best players off every team and tell me how well those teams

Archaea

11/14/19 3:30pm

That's my point. You realize I was agreeing with you....right?

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 3:33pm

I do.

Archaea

11/14/19 4:19pm

Good points. I'm definitely being too harsh. I would like to see us get some

Dangerous

11/14/19 12:15pm

I think we will see that over time. I think Pope is well connected and will be a good recruiter.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 3:34pm

Right on. He needs time to bring in better guys but is off to a good recruiting

PortlandBlue

11/14/19 12:58pm

Do we have an updated roster chart showing who's on mission & such?

Soupie

11/14/19 11:53am

He hasn’t been here long and I’m sure it’s hard to get guys who weren’t already BYU guys before he was hired

DieHarder

11/14/19 11:53am

He’s been the coach for less than a year, and BYU’s top 2 big men are out

ldssdl

11/14/19 11:56am

Give him three or four years. He didn't come into a great situation roster wise.

-C9-

11/14/19 11:53am

My worry is that the roster looks worse moving forward with who he is bringing

Dangerous

11/14/19 11:54am

My fear exactly.

bluefish

11/14/19 12:18pm

I'm willing to give him another year. Steve Cleveland brought in guys...

bluefish

11/14/19 12:16pm

Let's let him survive this year. Even Coach Izzo couldn't win with this team.

Archaea

11/14/19 12:18pm

When you get a job that late in the process after so many departures and

reagan21

11/14/19 11:54am

Toolson is pretty much BYU's 2nd best player. Lowell and Harward will be big in the future. Not sure what else Pope...

mulletino

11/14/19 11:58am

But at some point, he has to stop with the emergency signings.

Archaea

11/14/19 11:59am

And that point is not anywhere within his first year or coaching at the school

sidsie716

11/14/19 12:00pm

agreed. He's doing the only things he can at this point. This year's team

Archaea

11/14/19 12:04pm

Yeah, it's pretty bad right now.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:08pm

The beauty of Pope's recruiting is that he doesn't do that....

mokelembembe

11/14/19 12:46pm

He also flipped a kid to BYU that wound up top 100 on espn right? From American Fork.

Grit for Brains

11/14/19 12:00pm

Yes. Trey Stewart.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:02pm

Go take a long walk off the short pier in San Antonio...after you buy one of

reagan21

11/14/19 12:03pm

Childs and Baxter would make a huge difference this year.

CopperLix

11/14/19 11:54am

And Wade

Grit for Brains

11/14/19 12:01pm

If SUU can get D1 transfers to Cedar City, Pope should be able to get some to

Thrill

11/14/19 11:59am

Again, came in way late to the game

sidsie716

11/14/19 12:01pm

The two that looked the best to me would have to give up their

BYU71

11/14/19 12:02pm

The red hair kid actually played for USU last year but flunked out halfway through the season.

RdF3

11/14/19 12:03pm

It would be really tough for him at BYU. He was good.

BYU71

11/14/19 12:04pm

Academics get in the way

Doogal McCougar

11/14/19 12:16pm

Stupid facts. Why can't we just generalize and sharpen the pitchforks?

stoils

11/14/19 4:14pm

I actually like the talent he has gotten

CaliWG

11/14/19 12:01pm

He just got hired in April, didn’t really get a chance to get his feet under him

pegushin

11/14/19 12:04pm

He was the best and most logical choice to hire. I think we give

Archaea

11/14/19 12:21pm

that didn't take long, 3 games and the negativity flows

vabeachcoug

11/14/19 1:37pm

Especially after wins.

Lance71

11/14/19 2:42pm

RE: that didn't take long, 3 games and the negativity flows

buckeyecougarguy

11/14/19 2:58pm

it will happen again after the next loss.

Archaea

11/14/19 3:08pm

Why does everyone think this is so easy to do?

Canusa

11/14/19 3:57pm

I agree it isn't easy to do, but it must be done. That's the job description...

bluefish

11/14/19 4:13pm

I totally agree it needs to be done

Canusa

11/14/19 4:17pm

Time will tell, but I think Pope will be better than either Cleveland or Rose at doing exactly what you're asking for

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 4:19pm

These signees are fine/great for depth and role players

Little Mac

11/14/19 5:36pm

And to avoid injuries.

Archaea

11/14/19 5:57pm

Like Wyatt Lowell (3/4*), Richie Saunders (3*), Alex Barcello (4* U of A transfer), and Trey Stewart (4* on ESPN)?

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 6:04pm

Yes. Agreed.

Little Mac

11/14/19 6:16pm

Yeah, this year is going to be rough at times. We're in for some not-pretty moments in Maui.

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