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Nov 14, 2019
4:13:16pm

bluefish All-American

I agree it isn't easy to do, but it must be done. That's the job description...

...if he wants to get beyond average. That is my main point. But I've been a BYU fan for 25 years, and I have witnessed first-hand the two prior coaches (Cleveland and Rose) bring in diverse recruits who were not LDS, who helped get us conference championships. So you can't say it can't be done. Its been done before.

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Pope has got to increase the talent level. Recent signees not going to get us...

bluefish

11/14/19 11:51am

BYU has the talent. Great additions from UVU. But we're cursed (Childs/Wade/Baxter).

mulletino

11/14/19 11:52am

yeah, looking at a more athletic suu team was demoralizing.

jwf

11/14/19 11:52am

All teams are more athletic than this team besides BYU's 1 and 26

Archaea

11/14/19 11:57am

Yep - we need to find a Keena Young type player. His recruiting has left

Dangerous

11/14/19 11:53am

"His recruiting has left a lot to desire"?! The guy has had the job for a total of 7 months. Good heavens.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:01pm

Sign Maddy against Michigan State 😮 ?

Archaea

11/14/19 12:03pm

Well yeah, that sure would be nice. But having an expectation that our 7-month coach is going to win a recruiting battle

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:06pm

You don't read sarcasm very well. I give Pope a complete pass this year

Archaea

11/14/19 12:11pm

Yeah, we have a lot of very good players. Unfortunately, 5 of them can't play due to injury or RS.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 3:26pm

Take the five best players off every team and tell me how well those teams

Archaea

11/14/19 3:30pm

That's my point. You realize I was agreeing with you....right?

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 3:33pm

I do.

Archaea

11/14/19 4:19pm

Good points. I'm definitely being too harsh. I would like to see us get some

Dangerous

11/14/19 12:15pm

I think we will see that over time. I think Pope is well connected and will be a good recruiter.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 3:34pm

Right on. He needs time to bring in better guys but is off to a good recruiting

11/14/19 12:58pm

Do we have an updated roster chart showing who's on mission & such?

Soupie

11/14/19 11:53am

He hasn’t been here long and I’m sure it’s hard to get guys who weren’t already BYU guys before he was hired

DieHarder

11/14/19 11:53am

He’s been the coach for less than a year, and BYU’s top 2 big men are out

ldssdl

11/14/19 11:56am

Give him three or four years. He didn't come into a great situation roster wise.

-C9-

11/14/19 11:53am

My worry is that the roster looks worse moving forward with who he is bringing

Dangerous

11/14/19 11:54am

My fear exactly.

bluefish

11/14/19 12:18pm

I'm willing to give him another year. Steve Cleveland brought in guys...

bluefish

11/14/19 12:16pm

Let's let him survive this year. Even Coach Izzo couldn't win with this team.

Archaea

11/14/19 12:18pm

When you get a job that late in the process after so many departures and

reagan21

11/14/19 11:54am

Toolson is pretty much BYU's 2nd best player. Lowell and Harward will be big in the future. Not sure what else Pope...

mulletino

11/14/19 11:58am

But at some point, he has to stop with the emergency signings.

Archaea

11/14/19 11:59am

And that point is not anywhere within his first year or coaching at the school

sidsie716

11/14/19 12:00pm

agreed. He's doing the only things he can at this point. This year's team

Archaea

11/14/19 12:04pm

Yeah, it's pretty bad right now.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:08pm

The beauty of Pope's recruiting is that he doesn't do that....

mokelembembe

11/14/19 12:46pm

He also flipped a kid to BYU that wound up top 100 on espn right? From American Fork.

Grit for Brains

11/14/19 12:00pm

Yes. Trey Stewart.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 12:02pm

Go take a long walk off the short pier in San Antonio...after you buy one of

reagan21

11/14/19 12:03pm

Childs and Baxter would make a huge difference this year.

CopperLix

11/14/19 11:54am

And Wade

Grit for Brains

11/14/19 12:01pm

If SUU can get D1 transfers to Cedar City, Pope should be able to get some to

Thrill

11/14/19 11:59am

Again, came in way late to the game

sidsie716

11/14/19 12:01pm

The two that looked the best to me would have to give up their

BYU71

11/14/19 12:02pm

The red hair kid actually played for USU last year but flunked out halfway through the season.

RdF3

11/14/19 12:03pm

It would be really tough for him at BYU. He was good.

BYU71

11/14/19 12:04pm

Academics get in the way

Doogal McCougar

11/14/19 12:16pm

Stupid facts. Why can't we just generalize and sharpen the pitchforks?

stoils

11/14/19 4:14pm

I actually like the talent he has gotten

CaliWG

11/14/19 12:01pm

He just got hired in April, didn’t really get a chance to get his feet under him

pegushin

11/14/19 12:04pm

He was the best and most logical choice to hire. I think we give

Archaea

11/14/19 12:21pm

that didn't take long, 3 games and the negativity flows

vabeachcoug

11/14/19 1:37pm

Especially after wins.

Lance71

11/14/19 2:42pm

RE: that didn't take long, 3 games and the negativity flows

buckeyecougarguy

11/14/19 2:58pm

it will happen again after the next loss.

Archaea

11/14/19 3:08pm

Why does everyone think this is so easy to do?

Canusa

11/14/19 3:57pm

I agree it isn't easy to do, but it must be done. That's the job description...

bluefish

11/14/19 4:13pm

I totally agree it needs to be done

Canusa

11/14/19 4:17pm

Time will tell, but I think Pope will be better than either Cleveland or Rose at doing exactly what you're asking for

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 4:19pm

These signees are fine/great for depth and role players

Little Mac

11/14/19 5:36pm

And to avoid injuries.

Archaea

11/14/19 5:57pm

Like Wyatt Lowell (3/4*), Richie Saunders (3*), Alex Barcello (4* U of A transfer), and Trey Stewart (4* on ESPN)?

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 6:04pm

Yes. Agreed.

Little Mac

11/14/19 6:16pm

Yeah, this year is going to be rough at times. We're in for some not-pretty moments in Maui.

SingleStrapBackpack

11/14/19 6:30pm

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