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Dec 2, 2019
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mwcoug
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BYUs worst season ever and USUs best season ever just happened to happen in the
past 3 years. That's called an outlier.
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My last post: Sad reality. BYU is the 3rd best football program in Utah over
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 1:56pm
Bye bye, credibility.
All-American
12/2/19 1:58pm
Facts are tough
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:12pm
You should try using them sometime. Your take is nonsensical.
All-American
12/2/19 2:22pm
What about my take was not based in fact?
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:27pm
The ones you ignored.
All-American
12/2/19 3:09pm
And yet, Utah State's biggest win the last 3 years is probably over BYU.
Doogal McCougar
12/2/19 2:00pm
Well, you've included an outlier for each team in your calculations
mwcoug
12/2/19 2:00pm
For trends over 3 seasons you can't ignore 1/3 of the data
MikeDitka'sStache
12/2/19 2:02pm
You can if they are outliers
rggee
12/2/19 2:03pm
BYUs worst season ever and USUs best season ever just happened to happen in the
mwcoug
12/2/19 2:30pm
If there was only a way to figure out who was better on the field. That would be
Blueto
12/2/19 2:01pm
BYU over the last 3 years vs Utah, USU: 1-5
MikeDitka'sStache
12/2/19 2:02pm
You know we are 1-2 vs USU over the last 3 years. Right?
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:12pm
You know we beat them 42-14 this year. Right?
Blueto
12/2/19 2:30pm
So we are a worse team than Toledo? Yikes
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:32pm
Only because it proves your point of view. Why not 10 years? Why not 20?
Blueto
12/2/19 2:43pm
The reason I didn't do it is because I think our team next year will look
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:54pm
One season does not a program make (2017 for us, 2018 for USU)
rggee
12/2/19 2:01pm
I think Utah State has been the better team, but they don't have the better
checoug
12/2/19 2:02pm
um, what? No argument about the direction of BYU/Utah programs at the moment, but
Bob Vance
12/2/19 2:09pm
Over the past 3 years they have been better than BYU
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:17pm
3 years is hardly enough data to identify "program" success. It's enough to chart recent trajectory, and that's it.
Bob Vance
12/2/19 2:20pm
If you say so. 36+ football games from each side seems like a large
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:23pm
Not a single P5 win in three years and USU losses include NMSU, Wyoming
Doogal McCougar
12/2/19 3:01pm
You would have a decent argument if the Sagarin didn't say otherwise
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 3:03pm
It's how BYU established itself in rankings and prestige in pre-independence...
Doogal McCougar
12/2/19 3:11pm
We had one of our worst years in program history, they had their best
Doogal McCougar
12/2/19 2:25pm
Oh, by the way they have a much better coach than BYU does
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:21pm
don't know about that. prior history success, sure. Gary has not exactly got a hotly burning trajectory right now
Bob Vance
12/2/19 2:27pm
Remember when we beat them exactly 1 month ago? What was the score?
DieHarder
12/2/19 2:11pm
As I said, over the past 3 football seasons they have been the better team
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:19pm
Your post makes it sound like you’re saying we’re the 3rd best program, not the 3rd best program over the past 3 years
DieHarder
12/2/19 2:24pm
Good edit. Much better post
DieHarder
12/2/19 3:01pm
Thanks, it more accurately reflects my intent
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 3:05pm
Utah State is a program that is exactly the function of whatever HC they have. They are like aluminum foil. If there
Bob Vance
12/2/19 2:24pm
And yet despite the fact you gave, they have outperformed BYU and a coach
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:29pm
Both programs are going into heavy rebuilds in 2020
donnerstag
12/2/19 2:30pm
College football programs don't rebuild for 3 years
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:38pm
Utah State was 6-7, 3-9, and 6-7 prior to last season at 11-2
donnerstag
12/2/19 2:54pm
Yes, USU used to be a horrible program
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 3:00pm
Except that right before USU's 3 year fall they went 11-2, 9-5, 10-4
donnerstag
12/2/19 3:13pm
Your problem is that you only see a successful year in terms of wins/losses on
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 3:26pm
Virginia was 5-7 the 2nd year prior to Bronco taking over
donnerstag
12/2/19 3:49pm
I was on their boards after that season and they were pretty happy
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 5:40pm
Do 4 or 5 years. USU has a nice high and BYU has a nice low tucked into there
BrutustheBrash
12/2/19 2:31pm
I think as long as our current regime is coaching we are more likely to
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:35pm
But it also conveniently ignores a change in regime with USU
BrutustheBrash
12/2/19 2:41pm
Gary Andersen is a much more highly regarded coach than Kalani
kimdaddy35
12/2/19 2:56pm
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