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You guys want to know why BYU isn't winning like they used to?
Backcountry
12/13/19 9:52am
Maybe I'm old school but a free ride scholly, travel, room and board, etc..
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
12/13/19 9:57am
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Cougazul
12/13/19 10:05am
Yeah, I know. But the atmosphere is quite different at BYU.
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
12/13/19 10:07am
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Cougazul
12/13/19 10:08am
True...but, hopefully, their parents do. Listen, winning breeds winning..if BYU
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
12/13/19 10:11am
And how do you expect BYU to win with the current talent level against these
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:12am
Somehow MAFU figured out how to steal recruits..then came Satan Meyer...and
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
12/13/19 10:19am
With creative coaching, besides BYUs talent is fine we
1CougFan
12/13/19 10:58am
With great and creative coaching.
BYU313
12/13/19 12:03pm
Yes. They do. That’s why colleges are building these massive football facilities
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 10:12am
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Cougazul
12/13/19 10:15am
Okay kids do care about that atmosphere too.
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 10:22am
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Cougazul
12/13/19 10:35am
Well they do, but most don’t care for the BYU atmosphere.
CoachSpeak
12/13/19 11:01pm
Dr Bob couldn’t get is nephew to come here. Let that sink in.
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 9:57am
Not the only BYU employee whose kid chose another school either.
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:01am
Your timeline is wrong. His nephew was committed to BYU when Anae was here.
More of a Jazz Fan
12/13/19 10:49am
Yes and no. Anae never committed to BYU, but you're right that he committed to
Scratch
12/13/19 10:54am
He was never committed to BYU.
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 11:07am
This is a result from BYU’s poor results, not a primary reason.
Zedhead
12/13/19 9:58am
Absolute fallacy
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:01am
Agreed. Utah started beating us regularly while in the MWC. Combine that
chazen
12/13/19 4:01pm
The way honor code was enforced and academics were different a decade ago. Also
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 9:59am
You're right, people could anonymously target athletes 10 years ago minus proof
stansburycoug
12/13/19 10:17am
That pretty much nails it.
kotacoug
12/13/19 9:59am
I don't disagree with your point necessarily but Francis Bernard? Yes he
acougfan
12/13/19 9:59am
I might even say that BYU put Francis on the football map. Nobody else really
Benfica1
12/13/19 10:05am
Even if you take Francis off, still so many other names
DieHarder
12/13/19 10:07am
no doubt.
Benfica1
12/13/19 10:16am
For sure ... way too many
acougfan
12/13/19 11:15am
Agree. The only pitch is if someone is really really into the church
cougfanz
12/13/19 9:59am
I agree 100%. And that's part of the reason why I think it's silly to bash
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:04am
What’s silly is you’re making all these excuses for Kalani that you refused to
ldssdl
12/13/19 10:30am
You're such a drama queen.
GigantorCat
12/13/19 12:10pm
Im right
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:53pm
What is the difference between Bronco and KS? Bronco is a winner. Lame excuse.
coolblue
12/13/19 12:10pm
RE: What is the difference between Bronco and KS? Bronco is a winner. Lame
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:54pm
It's not even that, here is why
BigYfan
12/13/19 10:00am
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Cougazul
12/13/19 10:07am
All programs that recruit similarly to BYU. The difference between BYU and those
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:08am
Sitake, Tuiaki, Lamb
BigYfan
12/13/19 10:08am
Right then if they could schedule one or two P5s and
1CougFan
12/13/19 11:02am
The Utah matchup used to favor BYU and USU was a cupcake.
Doogal McCougar
12/13/19 11:35am
But, but, but I was told on CB that Utah's success didn't affect BYU
DirtyWater
12/13/19 10:01am
I'm impressed with your dedication.
Benfica1
12/13/19 10:02am
I’d like to see him list those BYU got. And compare their output.
StalwartBraveTrue
12/13/19 2:21pm
Doesn't fit the narrative many are trying to paint. That said, it is important
Benfica1
12/13/19 2:25pm
Agreed. 8-5 is bigger reason for recruiting decline than anything else.
StalwartBraveTrue
12/13/19 10:20pm
None of them have been in my kitchen.
Pistol Shrimp
12/13/19 10:04am
I want to thumbs down this post but I can’t 🙁
DieHarder
12/13/19 10:08am
RE: I want to thumbs down this post but I can’t 🙁
JohnnyComeLately
12/13/19 10:15am
Who was the last decently rated in-state, non-LDS kid who chose to go to BYU?
HBCoug
12/13/19 10:14am
Like I said, we never did, nor will we get them all. But we could have done
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:18am
Because Utah joined the Pac-12 and BYU didn't.
SoCalCoug
12/13/19 10:17am
This is right. BYU losing recruits has much more to do with BYU not being in a
Scratch
12/13/19 10:33am
Thats actually a good point
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:34am
LOL half those guys had non-commitable offers to BYU.
Mr. Scoobs
12/13/19 10:24am
In all fairness. Bernard did come to BYU. Don’t think he belongs on list.
Soupie
12/13/19 10:32am
Utah will always be better at recruiting the kids who threaten to kill their landlords
DieHarder
12/13/19 10:42am
You need to take some of those names off your list and qualify what matters
stansburycoug
12/13/19 10:39am
RE: You need to take some of those names off your list and qualify what matters
CougarPower1875
9/16/21 1:33pm
I was thinking that first list was guys from your favorite team? Had to read the
goofball
12/13/19 10:40am
BYU is still a great university with a good football program
BYU Fan
12/13/19 10:48am
ask ten LDS highschool kids in Salt Lake County how they feel about BYU football
run26
12/13/19 12:12pm
Absolutely. The only thing that will save the program from irrelevance
HONOMO
12/13/19 12:37pm
Post of the Year!
AingeEraCoug
12/13/19 12:43pm
Taylor Katoa may be the only kid that 100% is not at BYU due to Conference
stansburycoug
12/13/19 1:28pm
My response
AingeEraCoug
12/13/19 3:00pm
Your number 2 point while correct, he also has a lot of non LDS talent that
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 3:10pm
I don't think that hurts BYU
AingeEraCoug
12/13/19 4:11pm
Not a character reference with Mika
stansburycoug
12/13/19 3:42pm
But what was the motivation?
AingeEraCoug
12/13/19 4:23pm
RE: But what was the motivation?
stansburycoug
12/13/19 7:37pm
Final Comment
AingeEraCoug
12/13/19 8:39pm
Save the original poster? That's s stupid comment. Of course I want BYU to
Backcountry
12/14/19 9:18am
My apologies
stansburycoug
12/14/19 3:44pm
In this case your Ute friends are correct.
Backcountry
12/14/19 3:45pm
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
crazY
12/14/19 4:44pm
I don’t like to minimize the Francis Bernard situation...
CoachSpeak
12/14/19 12:16pm
Dont forget the part about him threatening to murder a dude.
Backcountry
12/14/19 12:25pm
If anything he didn’t belong at BYU from the beginning...
CoachSpeak
12/14/19 12:43pm
Okay, Captain Obvious. So what next?
StalwartBraveTrue
12/13/19 2:18pm
I don't think it's obvious to most. Most on here are in denial.
HONOMO
12/14/19 7:18pm
They've all gone lower in the draft than a BYU player?
Shore10
12/13/19 3:48pm
Completely disagree on your last point. Other things are great points
Coug Dude
12/13/19 11:12pm
Update. Andrew Gentry added.
Backcountry
12/14/19 7:21pm
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