The "big picture" is that the bar hasn't been this low at BYU for a long time.

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Jan 14, 2020
10:57:22am

Mr. Scoobs All-American

The "big picture" is that the bar hasn't been this low at BYU for a long time.

Some fans are totally fine with striving to limp to a lame bowl, but BYU has aspired to and has been more than that for several decades.

Crowton finished 28, 90, 68, 41 and got canned, Kalani has finished 36, 112, 63, 67 and gets extended. The "big picture" is that the bar hasn't been this low in a long time---and it's almost unimaginable how quickly it's happened.

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Mr. Scoobs

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We finish 58th in the Massey Composite - another unsuccessful season

Coop

1/14/20 7:44am

He needs more time to get his guys

Bert609

1/14/20 7:45am

We finished below Western Kentucky, Tulane, Florida Atlantic ...

Coop

1/14/20 7:46am

I’ll continue my rant like a nutjob

Coop

1/14/20 7:50am

It’s not a good look when the last guy averaged 33 with the same restrictions

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 9:40am

Dude, why should BYU be a better program than those schools?

Backcountry

1/14/20 2:31pm

RE: Dude, why should BYU be a better program than those schools?

Coop

1/14/20 3:43pm

Its time to recalibrate your expectations

Backcountry

1/14/20 4:30pm

This is perhaps the truth....also a real blow to the future of BYU football.

wilsdad

1/14/20 4:45pm

This will be Sitake's 5th season. Bronco was so far ahead of the game at this

Borg

1/14/20 7:51am

Let me provide a counter argument......

mudpupper

1/14/20 7:52am

Bronco inherited a ton more all-timers from Crowton

donnerstag

1/14/20 8:06am

Last six seasons under Bronco Avg. Massey rating 39.7. Kalani first four: 64.5

tevye

1/14/20 8:16am

What was Bronco's average from 2005-09?

donnerstag

1/14/20 8:28am

From '05-'09 Avg was 24.4. BYU finished #13 in '06, '07 and '09. Those three

tevye

1/14/20 8:47am

According to Sagarin, BYU dropped from a 19 avg in 2006-09 to a 39 avg

donnerstag

1/14/20 8:50am

You act like having top 25 teams is a black mark. Top 40 in "down years" is

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 8:51am

If you're satisfied with an 8.33 win average

donnerstag

1/14/20 8:54am

I prefer top 40 finishes over finishes in the 70's. Don't understand the fans

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 8:59am

I don't care if we finish 40th or 70th

donnerstag

1/14/20 9:14am

What do you define as a special season?

tevye

1/14/20 9:18am

Zero to one loss seasons where we're being talked about nationally

donnerstag

1/14/20 9:21am

That's a very high bar. Only 4 FBS teams (3%) had a "special season" in 2019.

tevye

1/14/20 9:34am

Maybe if we go to a major bowl and lose and stay in the top 10

donnerstag

1/14/20 10:13am

And we were much closer to "special" seasons in the latter years than we are now

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 9:23am

I never said that we are closer to special seasons from 2017-19

donnerstag

1/14/20 10:11am

In December 2023, after an embarrassing 42-17 loss to Liberty in the Cure Bowl

BeardedSpock

1/14/20 8:44am

Nope. This will be close to 100% Sitake recruits by 2021

donnerstag

1/14/20 8:46am

Are they weak due to poor coaching or poor ability?

BYUtka

1/14/20 8:55am

It's poor coaching and lack of experience

donnerstag

1/14/20 9:15am

Kinda like how losing to #125 Toledo this yr wasn't a "bad loss"?

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 9:28am

Sitake delivers more big wins than Bronco. And hes actually a decent dude.

Backcountry

1/14/20 2:32pm

Sagarin finishes: 36, 112, 63, 67. Averaged 33 ‘05-‘15. “Improvement?!”

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 7:50am

70th place finish as the average for Kalani. So terrible

Dynasty1

1/14/20 8:04am

Bottom-half FBS finish average now gets rewarded with an extension.

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 8:36am

Hey as long as we’re beating Idaho St

Dynasty1

1/14/20 8:42am

Still waiting for some CBer to make and post a GIF of Holmoe zipping up his

DirtyWater

1/14/20 7:51am

Average Massey finishes for the last four years: 64.5. Utah average: 30.5.

tevye

1/14/20 8:08am

Honest question, what are they a composite of exactly? I did a quick search, but

ldssdl

1/14/20 8:09am

Computer rankings

Coop

1/14/20 8:54am

We could have done better if Sitake played the right QB.

Dangerous

1/14/20 8:26am

And actually implemented a real defense.

mudpupper

1/14/20 8:56am

Don't worry Sitake is a great recruiter.........

acougfan

1/14/20 8:40am

Thanks for another whine-fest 3 weeks after the season ended.

Benfica1

1/14/20 8:55am

Rankings didn’t update until the season was fully over

Coop

1/14/20 8:59am

And you were surprised by the ranking? Blindsided?

Benfica1

1/14/20 9:05am

Why even be a fan of a program if you don't care about the results?

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 9:03am

So Beating historically two of the best football programs in football history

1/14/20 9:29am

It gets tainted by losing to #125 Toledo/#98 USF etc. Bottom-half FBS finishes

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 9:34am

True it taints, I'm not that hyper critical and prefer to see the big picture.

1/14/20 9:57am

The "big picture" is that the bar hasn't been this low at BYU for a long time.

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 10:57am

My post is the big picture

Coop

1/14/20 11:09am

Yep, its funner that way.

1/14/20 11:20am

What's fun is watching BYU play good football, which we don't do consistently

Coop

1/14/20 12:19pm

BYU had a very good--and successful--year. Your expectations are way off.

argus

1/14/20 10:02am

This is fake news.

DirtyWater

1/14/20 10:33am

RE: This is fake news.

argus

1/14/20 12:19pm

Play more bad teams and hire Dabo? Hahahahahahaha

DirtyWater

1/14/20 1:48pm

RE: Play more bad teams and hire Dabo? Hahahahahahaha

argus

1/14/20 4:41pm

Um, BYU had an average year with some very good wins. I'm expecting 8+ wins.

Benfica1

1/14/20 11:03am

SPOTD 🙁

tony

1/14/20 12:52pm

Kalani has had weaker SOS than our prior coaches. Bar lowered so quick it's nuts

Mr. Scoobs

1/14/20 1:58pm

71st accordong to Massey index

1/14/20 11:19am

Until the Board of Trustees decide that Football is more than a cash cow...

wilsdad

1/14/20 11:44am

Our coaches are Elite.

1/14/20 11:54am

. . . said no one ever

LV Mike

1/14/20 3:01pm

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