Looking simply at the # of injuries without looking at the nature of them is a pretty

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Jan 16, 2020
4:48:04pm

unctoothman All-American

Looking simply at the # of injuries without looking at the nature of them is a pretty

hollow way to try to make a point either way. Of course it's hard to isolate or stratify out all causes. And empirical opinions are not very statistically weighty....though when they come from guys who were at BYU then are somewhere else and have a fair ability to compare then those opinions are at least worth something.

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T. Greene throwing some shade at the BYU strength and conditioning program. Any merits to his concerns???

HarlemCoug All-American

1/16/20 3:59pm

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CrashMcLarson

1/16/20 4:01pm

He’s got to be more specific in his criticism.

JuicyJam

1/16/20 4:01pm

Didn't he say daily lifting routine? That's pretty specific.

Lance71

1/16/20 4:04pm

What is the connection (unless he tore it lifting)?

SCcoug

1/16/20 4:10pm

The only connection is a bunch of guys all had it happen the same year. Greene

Lance71

1/16/20 4:17pm

No it isn't. How did the routine lead to injuries?

JuicyJam

1/16/20 4:39pm

I'm really not trying to argue anything here. Seems like Greene is blaming his

Lance71

1/16/20 4:47pm

From the NASM:

cougartailaddict

1/16/20 7:11pm

It's also common sense that better preparation for physical activity

cougartailaddict

1/16/20 7:16pm

Also, don’t tweets have to be short?

Coug Man in Florida

1/16/20 9:56pm

Tejan responds

donnerstag

1/16/20 4:04pm

Koroma with the first response:

Thrill

1/16/20 4:05pm

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Thrill

1/16/20 4:05pm

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bluescholar

1/16/20 4:07pm

But nobody wants to listen to Brady Poppinga

Run-DMT

1/16/20 4:09pm

Kind of a random time and way to take a shot at BYU

LifelongAP

1/16/20 4:12pm

Greene wanted to play one more season at BYU after he graduated

donnerstag

1/16/20 4:18pm

What did he say?

SL12

1/16/20 4:49pm

After reading that I really have to question BYUs

cougaman

1/16/20 4:13pm

Repost of 2019 BYU injuries compared to other teams

Thrill

1/16/20 4:14pm

It would be really interesting to see which of those programs use a

Lance71

1/16/20 4:21pm

Wintrich has a lot of PR that stretches the truth IMHO. He makes all these

Thrill

1/16/20 4:26pm

Could be, I was just referring to the list you just posted.

Lance71

1/16/20 4:27pm

so on the higher side but not a crazy outlier..

CrashMcLarson

1/16/20 4:22pm

Interesting that USC and BYU are two of the higher ones though. Didn't he leave as an assistant at USC to take

Pimpin4Paradise

1/16/20 4:28pm

Looking simply at the # of injuries without looking at the nature of them is a pretty

unctoothman

1/16/20 4:48pm

Honestly hard to argue with what he is saying

kimdaddy35

1/16/20 6:06pm

I agree. They are supposed to be redoing and overhauling everything in the

travelcoug

1/16/20 6:46pm

If you don’t believe that the S and C program is garbage...

AZPTCOUG

1/16/20 7:15pm

Anyone who defends them usually doesn't have any real ties to the program.

Malacis

1/16/20 9:42pm

Can you show us the stats you are referring to?

Thrill

1/17/20 12:35pm

Where do you access what their regimen is? I’m sincerely curious, this is not to

Coug Man in Florida

1/17/20 9:21pm

Like I've been saying

Malacis

1/16/20 9:21pm

It shhould say a lot that players become different animals in the months precedi

Malacis

1/16/20 9:23pm

Along similar lines I have heard the team orthopedic surgeon needs to retire.

Trent

1/16/20 9:26pm

"Do whatever you can to avoid using BYU's guy" - several rehabbing football

Malacis

1/16/20 9:29pm

Yep. I have heard the same thing. Which is unacceptable if true and easily fixed

Trent

1/16/20 9:32pm

Especially at the expense of young players' health

Malacis

1/16/20 9:33pm

Which gets at a broader complaint that Tom, Kalani, and crew

Trent

1/16/20 9:36pm

He did my shoulder when I tore both my labrum and rotator cuff back when I was at BYU.

indocoug

1/17/20 7:04am

What’s the name of the surgeon? If you don’t mind sharing. I know a lot of team

Coug Man in Florida

1/17/20 9:18pm

BYU should have the U provide medical care. I am being serious, the surgeons at

Littlerich

1/17/20 6:22am

I used him one my first knee surgery. It never felt right and

LEHI cougar

1/17/20 6:25am

I don't know if BYU's surgeon is good or not, but a few stories like these

byusage

1/17/20 8:55am

1st measure is age. Right out of school...just say no. About to retire...just...

Trent

1/17/20 3:18pm

And that doc still has failures. I agree with you on your criteria, but even

byusage

1/17/20 5:51pm

Who kimball? Constantly schedules surgeries when not needed

1984coug

1/17/20 9:07am

I have been saying this since Ty Detmer took the fall for KS's buddy

Palestra

1/16/20 9:48pm

Anyone know what their regimen actually is in the off season and during the

Coug Man in Florida

1/16/20 10:05pm

Every year BYU leads the nation in injuries. Moss, who was used harder

oldrugger

1/17/20 12:00am

I think one issue is how hard KS has them lifting during the season. Those

coolblue

1/17/20 7:08am

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