Counterargument

Jan 16, 2020
6:13:13pm

Sandstone Cougar All-American

Counterargument

Clayton Kershaw in the 2017 World Series:

At Dodger Stadium:
11IP, 1ER, 3BBs, 15Ks, 0.82 ERA

At Minute Maid Park:
4.2IP, 6ER, 3BB 2Ks, 6.50 ERA pic.twitter.com/fFnSOXA11y
— Starting 9 (@Starting9) January 16, 2020

https://twitter.com/Starting9/status/1217909532338335750

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Here is the biggest argument I have that this whole sign stealing fiasco is

troutmaster13

1/16/20 6:07pm

...it sounds like they were certainly cheating...you can stop right there.

Lifi

1/16/20 6:10pm

Counterargument

Sandstone Cougar

1/16/20 6:13pm

Kershaw is a Choke artist in the post season, that's my counter

troutmaster13

1/16/20 6:14pm

Yet he dominated them at home when they weren’t stealing signs. I watched the

califcougar

1/16/20 6:17pm

That's a pretty dishonest narrative given what we know now.

jdub

1/16/20 6:43pm

Now look at playoffs and read the reports that they changed the system during

califcougar

1/16/20 6:15pm

I don’t think Manfred’s report definitively stated that cheating only happened at home games.

TCuz

1/16/20 6:15pm

I'm pretty sure that was the only place they could do it. Is a road team going

troutmaster13

1/16/20 6:19pm

Opposing teams have kicked their employees out of their stadium for filming

califcougar

1/16/20 6:20pm

A. It’s nonsense you’re arguing this. B. Early reports claimed their bullpen

Pee Wee Reese

1/16/20 6:21pm

The report states they were using the live game feed from the normal centerfield camera.

TCuz

1/16/20 6:22pm

Didn’t someone say that they had a monitor set up right outside the dugout at

Martin Van Nostrand

1/16/20 6:51pm

Yes, that’s how they did it at home. Who knows on the road.

TCuz

1/16/20 6:55pm

So it didn’t help yet they chose to do it over a period of time & in key games?

garyfan

1/16/20 6:21pm

this problem would be solved if catchers stopped publicly announcing every pitch

The Shazad

1/16/20 6:22pm

Agreed. I can't understand why this isn't happening, especially after now

troutmaster13

1/16/20 6:24pm

Why especially now? I thought that information wasn’t helpful to the Astros…

garyfan

1/16/20 6:29pm

There's no way they broke out the cheating every single at bat in every single home game.

CouchPotato

1/16/20 6:27pm

It's pretty well-established that they used it in the post-season.

Game Changer

1/16/20 6:33pm

It's bad. Would be bad on any team. Still could be. You really have to

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