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Apr 8, 2020
7:20:08pm

flyzag Truly Addicted User

How do you figure? You think this is over?

You think this virus has gone away? You think it's going away? we THANKFULLY have flattened the peak.. we haven't eliminated it. What do you think happens in 4 weeks when we start to re-open our economy.. more people will get sick.. and more people will unfortunately die. There will be a second / third wave etc. The only thing stopping this is "herd" immunity and/or a vaccine. We have neither of those.

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flyzag

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Everybody back peddling on their dire death predictions.

777

4/8/20 5:12pm

Have any grocery/retail workers fallen ill with COVID?

WJCougar

4/8/20 5:14pm

A few Walmart employees have died recently.

eddog

4/8/20 5:21pm

4 out of 1,500,000 (not sure how they got C19).

Benfica1

4/8/20 5:25pm

They probably got it from customers.

eddog

4/8/20 5:27pm

Or somewhere else.

Benfica1

4/8/20 5:30pm

And how does that compare to previous years?

Busiturtle

4/8/20 5:31pm

Are pilots, flight attendants and TSA workers disproportionally affected?

ABCoug

4/8/20 5:43pm

A lady in my ward here in VA who works at a grocery store in town got it

VACOUGFAN

4/8/20 9:38pm

In Utah especially there will be no shortage of beds or vents.

4/8/20 5:15pm

There is currently no expected shortage even in NY.

Plato

4/8/20 5:18pm

What places are you talking about?

zzcoug

4/8/20 5:19pm

They predicted doom, they wanted doom

Busiturtle

4/8/20 5:15pm

Completely absurd.

Ikuna

4/8/20 5:40pm

How so? When state leaders are throwing out shutdown dates 60 days out

Busiturtle

4/8/20 6:07pm

60 more days of this nonsense is what is absurd!

antiyewt

4/8/20 6:09pm

Just because they lie somewhere different on the caution spectrum than you does

Ikuna

4/8/20 7:29pm

In your opinion should NYC have shut down?

flyzag

4/8/20 5:17pm

8 million people on an island 20x10 miles. I think they can be handled much

777

4/8/20 5:21pm

To be fair, 23 million in the NYC metro and only 1.7 million on the island

LiveCoug

4/8/20 5:25pm

How about New Orleans? Detroit?

flyzag

4/8/20 5:32pm

Logic starting to crumble on your 100s of thousands dead prediction

kotacoug

4/8/20 6:00pm

How do you figure? You think this is over?

flyzag

4/8/20 7:20pm

let's hope temperature has an effect.

bald man

4/8/20 7:21pm

It literally is in every country in the world. Doubt it will have much affect.

flyzag

4/8/20 7:25pm

Honestly, it seems you believe this won't go away. What do you

Plato

4/8/20 7:30pm

I don't believe there is a single modeler, scientist, or doctor that believes

flyzag

4/8/20 7:58pm

I don't think you can support your second paragraph

Plato

4/8/20 8:02pm

I'm confused. You are saying that if there are contagious people they suddenly

flyzag

4/8/20 8:08pm

Are you saying that 100% of Americans will be infected?

Plato

4/8/20 8:50pm

No I don't believe I said anything close to that.

flyzag

4/8/20 8:55pm

You: "How are you supposing that the remaining 300+ million people will not

Plato

4/8/20 9:31pm

I was merely asking how you felt not a single one of those 300 million that

flyzag

4/8/20 9:35pm

Not 100% but likely 60% or more. I forget what kind of herd immunity figures

Northwest Cougar

4/8/20 9:18pm

I'm not certain that helped, maybe it was too late. What's your thought?

Plato

4/8/20 7:50pm

I believe it would have been much worse without it.

flyzag

4/8/20 7:59pm

It's getting frustrating. WA is sending ventilators and nurses to NY and other

wabluecoug

4/8/20 5:18pm

Washington’s governor...

antiyewt

4/8/20 5:27pm

How much of WA's restrictions on hunting and fishing is just because they

Tricky

4/8/20 5:41pm

He's gonna miss the revenue though

CBaass

4/8/20 5:44pm

But he's not going to talk about cutting spending, he made that pretty clear

wabluecoug

4/8/20 5:49pm

That’s easy. Raise taxes.

antiyewt

4/8/20 6:10pm

Designated shooting areas on public land were among the first things shut down

antiyewt

4/8/20 5:44pm

I haven't heard a good answer. They said it was because people were at the boat

wabluecoug

4/8/20 5:48pm

Insanity, time for a lawsuit, what's the justification for keeping you locked up

ABCoug

4/8/20 5:47pm

No offense but the other side has been peddling their dire economy

4/8/20 5:18pm

Both sides are terrible and refuse to acknowledge that.

SandYFan

4/8/20 5:20pm

The partisanship on this issue has been disappointing.

eddog

4/8/20 5:23pm

I had hoped that this would unite us like tragedies have in the past, but it

wabluecoug

4/8/20 5:24pm

It's the opposite of what happened after Pearl Harbor and 9/11.

eddog

4/8/20 5:31pm

When power is at stake, there will be no united front.

bald man

4/8/20 6:41pm

I'm the worst because I want the impossible of less deaths and

4/8/20 5:27pm

It's a terrible choice. a few die so many, many more have the ability to provide

bald man

4/8/20 6:43pm

Wrong. One side just wants to be left alone to live their lives. False

UNLVcougar

4/8/20 6:26pm

Except the economy has lost more jobs than any other time in history. So looks like they were right.

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:20pm

Not necessarily. What matters is what happens next. Does the economy recover and how quickly?

CDV

4/8/20 5:22pm

What part of my statement was incorrect? Has the economy lost more job in the last two weeks than any other time in

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:25pm

Well that just happened so it doesn’t matter.

antiyewt

4/8/20 5:29pm

Im pretty sure someone who is unemployed right now has every right to complain about the Government shutting them down

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:31pm

My income has been exactly zero since the first week of March.

antiyewt

4/8/20 5:37pm

My mistake, hard to read sarcasm.

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:43pm

The part of your statement that was incorrect was where you said "looks like they were right."

CDV

4/8/20 5:35pm

And they are right. Those who predicted we would lose millions of jobs and we would have a bear market were correct

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:39pm

Well it is pretty easy when you pick and choose which predictions you want to audit. On the

CDV

4/8/20 5:44pm

How can you possibly deny the economy has been seriously damaged?

antiyewt

4/8/20 5:49pm

You need to learn to read better

CDV

4/8/20 6:50pm

See above: “we’ll have to wait and see if they were right”

antiyewt

4/8/20 7:13pm

Nobody ever said it wasn’t. You still aren’t reading carefully.

CDV

4/8/20 7:14pm

I read quite well. Perhaps your writing could use some help.

antiyewt

4/8/20 7:17pm

I am sure that is true. Not a great writer.

CDV

4/8/20 7:55pm

That’s really your argument?

JollyGreenGiant

4/8/20 6:56pm

Again, not what I said. I said the predictions haven’t yet all been validated. Like for example the prediction that

CDV

4/8/20 7:16pm

And that is just on our own shores. People in the 3rd world will starve to death

Unibro

4/8/20 5:41pm

Maybe. I sure hope not. I have a hard time believing that will happen, but I know at

CDV

4/8/20 5:47pm

Every day this goes on increases the risk

Unibro

4/8/20 7:35pm

Absolutely true.

CDV

4/8/20 7:55pm

What happens next starting from when? Today? A month from now? Three months?

Northwest Cougar

4/8/20 5:33pm

I don't know the answer. And just to be clear, I am not defending the shut down. My own business

CDV

4/8/20 5:38pm

I would love if you were right.

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:43pm

I do not know if that will happen. I am preparing for the worst. I hope it does. But

CDV

4/8/20 5:45pm

Personally I feel pretty confident in my own finances. I just feel incredibly sick when I see other peoples

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:51pm

I don’t think I ever said overblown. I certainly don’t feel like the economic issues are overblown. I am personally

CDV

4/8/20 5:55pm

I dont know if you said it was overblown or not.

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 6:01pm

The only people who were.

kotacoug

4/8/20 6:01pm

I've had zero income for a month. And looks like a second month as well,

777

4/8/20 5:25pm

I know so many small business owners who are freaking out.

JohnnyComeLately

4/8/20 5:30pm

There is zero urgency to open up. That is concerning considering all the dire

777

4/8/20 5:35pm

Just gave my POTD to JCL on this thread but wish I had another one for you

Northwest Cougar

4/8/20 5:36pm

I agree with you. Without specifics, what business do you operate in?

4/8/20 5:42pm

I hope you can soon and me being ignorant (I'd trust CSOUL cause he's smrt and

4/8/20 5:30pm

It was our collective responsibility to flatten the curve.

antiyewt

4/8/20 5:32pm

It's unreal. It really is.

777

4/8/20 5:36pm

Now flattening the curve wasn't the real goal, but total elimination

wabluecoug

4/8/20 5:56pm

It is for Fauci and he’s calling the shots

BYU '80

4/8/20 6:24pm

The lack of testing led to this. This is what still prevents us from being able

bald man

4/8/20 6:49pm

Literal SPAMMING? Sounds like Monty Python!

bruincoug

4/8/20 5:45pm

More SPAMALOT!

4/8/20 5:46pm

False equivalency. We currently have a dire economy. The covid numbers are

UNLVcougar

4/8/20 6:25pm

Not a false equivalency. You're making a "my rights are being infringed"

4/8/20 7:02pm

Your initial comment was to deride those who claimed how dire the econonmy

UNLVcougar

4/8/20 7:19pm

And your comment is to deride people who take this pandemic seriously

4/8/20 7:45pm

Lol ... now you are worried about civil rights

coolcats

4/8/20 7:15pm

Well one party is known for disliking business and loving govt power.

Coach's Dad

4/8/20 11:30pm

Don't use broad false generalizations. Let me rephrase yours to show it's

4/9/20 12:13pm

Nothing I said was a generalization. The Democratic party owns the fact that

Coach's Dad

4/9/20 12:36pm

You had your answer, but didn't like it

coolcats

4/8/20 5:42pm

The one US demographic that is in the bullseye of this epidemic is residents

Busiturtle

4/8/20 5:42pm

At least 25% of deaths in nyc

BYU '80

4/8/20 6:24pm

Better than going the other way!

bruincoug

4/8/20 5:44pm

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