Friend bought a car off KSL that the owner did not disclose was a lemon.

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Jun 3, 2020
11:52:23am

CougarTailDevourer Intervention Needed

Friend bought a car off KSL that the owner did not disclose was a lemon.

The previous owner had sold it to this couple for several thousand less and had disclosed all the engine problems, etc... This couple then turned around and sold it to my friend at a significant markup and didn't say anything about the engine problems that they knew about. This was in Utah. Any recourse for my friend? The couple he bought it from is refusing to do a return.

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Friend bought a car off KSL that the owner did not disclose was a lemon.

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 11:52am

Sadly no.

crimedog

6/3/20 11:53am

That's why you have an independent mechanic look it over first. 🙁

SandYFan

6/3/20 11:54am

They did. He didn't find anything and the engine problems came a day later.

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 11:56am

Yikes, time for a new mechanic.

6/3/20 11:58am

It was Jiffy Lube, so yeah, probably...

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 12:07pm

That's surprising. The few times I have been to Jiffy Lube they have a list of like 20 things my car needs

Clark Addison

6/3/20 12:13pm

Only if you can show they knew and did not disclose. Have a misrepresentation or fraud claim.

6/3/20 11:55am

The OG owner that sold the car to the fraudster said they were willing to back

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 11:57am

IF $11,000 or under, then yes.

6/3/20 12:02pm

It was under that, I think they paid like 6000 for it. I'll recommend that

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 12:05pm

How do they know all this?

BNcoug

6/3/20 11:56am

They contacted the OG owner who sold the car to the fraudsters and he told them

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 11:57am

Did they even re-title the car? Or did they just resell the car?

6/3/20 12:02pm

Not sure. The OG owner told my friend that he had told the fraudsters that the

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 12:07pm

Well, when life gives you lemons...

6/3/20 11:59am

Lemon laws only apply to new cars. You have a fraud claim. If the original owner

vegasnative

6/3/20 12:02pm

It's Utah. And the original owner did say he'd vouch for them. Not sure if vouch

CougarTailDevourer

6/3/20 12:08pm

But the buyers had their mechanic look at and say it was fine wouldn't that absolve the "fraudster" of any liability?

IceBlueCoug

6/3/20 12:10pm

It depends on what you have a duty to disclose under Utah law. If there is no

vegasnative

6/3/20 12:20pm

Not applicable here, but in some states (eg. AZ) they apply to any car you buy from a dealer. I got a used odyssey from

mvtoro

6/3/20 12:41pm

If they just didn't disclose the problems, your friend probably doesn't have a

byubyu

6/3/20 12:10pm

They messed with the engine light.

6/3/20 12:17pm

Allegedly.

byubyu

6/3/20 12:28pm

It should be pretty straightforward that it was tampered with, the testimony of

6/3/20 12:54pm

“Worth it” depends on how much work it is for you to get $6000 normally.

mvtoro

6/3/20 1:16pm

Yeah, If Original Owner will testify that the light was on when he sold it (and they canceled it) and that he disclosed

mvtoro

6/3/20 1:18pm

did your friend not take the car to a mechanic prior to purchasing?

BlueFrog

6/3/20 12:20pm

Who was the owner that allegedly misrepresented the condition of the car?

j20

6/3/20 12:55pm

I can think of several methods of recourse, but none of them are legal.

Nagurski

6/4/20 11:07am

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