Their guest today made the interesting point that no non-P5 has ever been ranked

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Nov 24, 2020
11:31:12am

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in the initial top 12 of the playoff rankings. Odds are that doesn't change tonight, but it would obviously be BS.

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I agree with Spencer Linton: "Tonight is not the night to worry where BYU lands on the CFP Rankings"

Ode to Hoy The Truffle Shuffler

11/24/20 10:43am

This is some nice hedging. But yes, tonight is the night to worry about it.

Harbinger

11/24/20 10:44am

Oklahoma will leapfrog BYU if they win out

Chester Copperpot

11/24/20 10:45am

Which would be ridiculous. 2 losses and their conf lost 3 games to the sunbelt.

Mr. Scoobs

11/24/20 10:47am

It doesn't matter. The winner of their conference will get an autobid, so if

cougaman

11/24/20 10:49am

I disagree, The two teams the play are 5-3 and 1-5. If BYU plays no more games, then I might agree. Which is why I think

Ode to Hoy

11/24/20 10:50am

I agree with most of what you said, except for the "leap frog" part

moknowssports

11/24/20 10:47am

We won’t move up if we don’t play better teams. If we can’t schedule any more

allaboutthegainz

11/24/20 10:47am

Spencer also thinks the worst that could happen is BYU falling to #10

BYU Fan

11/24/20 10:47am

Lol, BYU won’t even be #10 tonight.

allaboutthegainz

11/24/20 10:50am

The problem is, it's not 'falling' - this is the CFP's first crack at their

rggee

11/24/20 10:51am

They would be "falling" from 8 in the AP to 10th in the CFP

BYU Fan

11/24/20 12:56pm

That's my point

rggee

11/24/20 12:57pm

BYU needs to be at #9 in the final poll to be guaranteed a NY6 spot. No #9 team has ever been left out of a NY6.

Turnpike Lane

11/24/20 10:50am

The good news is this is an optimal year for at-large bids. I think we'd be in

rggee

11/24/20 10:52am

The P12 and B12 being so bad takes away all that optimality.

molodyets

11/24/20 10:53am

Not at all, we aren't competing with the conference champs. It doesn't matter

rggee

11/24/20 10:54am

Same thing with Cincinnati. It doesn't matter where they end up with

rggee

11/24/20 10:55am

If Oregon wins the p12 and is ranked 15 it definitely affects how high we need

molodyets

11/24/20 11:38am

Not with respect to the other at large candidates.

rggee

11/24/20 11:39am

Let me explain, if all conference champs are in the top 12, we need to be #12,

rggee

11/24/20 11:41am

I see what you are saying - we are looking at it differently.

molodyets

11/24/20 12:42pm

Sure, but the ranking of the PAC12 and Big12 champs has ZERO effect on our NY6

rggee

11/24/20 12:50pm

They do if you look at it from the second point of view I mentioned

molodyets

11/24/20 12:51pm

But where Oregon/USC and OU/ISU end up will change the value of 'X' - so it is

rggee

11/24/20 12:57pm

That completely depends on who else is in the top 10. If Cincy, Oklahoma,

cougaman

11/24/20 10:54am

Correct.

rggee

11/24/20 10:56am

So be top-9 and guarantee it.

Turnpike Lane

11/24/20 11:04am

I think top 10 will get it this year almost guaranteed

rggee

11/24/20 11:12am

The scenarios where #10 doesn't get in this year include P5 champs outside the

Doogal McCougar

11/24/20 11:24am

ACC #3 isn't guaranteed a spot if Clemson and ND make the playoff.

cougaman

11/24/20 11:36am

Orange Bowl is always ACC versus SEC/B1G/Notre Dame

Doogal McCougar

11/24/20 11:37am

Guess maybe I was wrong. I guess I'm a ND fan now in the ACC championship 🙂

cougaman

11/24/20 11:40am

Orange Bowl, no?

rggee

11/24/20 11:37am

That is really the big thing. I'm not so much worried about where BYU stands

cougarfan84

11/24/20 1:06pm

Precisely

rggee

11/24/20 1:23pm

This is 2020: there are no guarantees

2FarGone

11/24/20 10:58am

Tom Holmoe seems to be

delux_247

11/24/20 10:51am

Because the rankings will change week to week, I fear that a #8-10 ranking

Doogal McCougar

11/24/20 10:53am

That's my worry. BYU having a strong ranking this week only to see it drop over

cougarfan84

11/24/20 11:11am

Most teams will jump BYU if they beat teams in the top 10...

Coug

11/24/20 10:55am

I don't know if we need to play significant competition, but we definitely need

cougarfan84

11/24/20 11:14am

teams with a bye tend to rise in the polls, not drop

Hill4Heisman

11/24/20 12:42pm

My worry is that BYU will be ranked fairly high in the rankings tonight (top 10)

cougarfan84

11/24/20 11:09am

Their guest today made the interesting point that no non-P5 has ever been ranked

Ash

11/24/20 11:31am

It will change tonight given that the 2 non p5 teams in contention are both 8+

cougaman

11/24/20 11:38am

My guess is they put us at 10.

Ash

11/24/20 11:53am

Loved your last line!

rerunc

11/24/20 11:49am

Nit ... Cincinnati will be in the AAC, not the ACC, championship game.

rmsenior

11/24/20 1:17pm

You’re too busy squabbling over the scraps from the power five table that you’ve

Jcoulson

11/24/20 1:36pm

This is the first of 5 CFP polls.

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