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Apr 14, 2021
8:43:45am

j20 Contributor

You're putting too much weight in to the school and not enough in the person.

A BYU grad typically scores higher and achieves more. However, this isn't just because they went to BYU. They had higher scores and achievements even before they went to BYU.

For some fields it may be more advantageous (e.g. business, sales), but it's not everything. And in this particular case, Harding being a former NCAA basketball player at both BYU and UVU is going to carry a lot of weight if he happens to want to do business/sales. The BYU/UVU basketball player thing will stand out more than just saying "BYU grad" on his resume. He'll be all right.

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Not trying to be a jerk here but is playing time at UVU worth giving up a BYU

Ojiisan

4/13/21 12:06pm

With the way the world is going that degree from BYU may actually hurt you in the future

IceBlueCoug

4/13/21 12:08pm

If someone won't hire me because I went to BYU, that's fine.

CosmoK

4/13/21 4:15pm

That’s why I went on to get a masters at Indiana University. Don’t even put BYU

Cosmo4life

4/13/21 5:27pm

He may already have his BYU degree (meant for OP)

BYUfan92

4/13/21 6:40pm

RE: That’s why I went on to get a masters at Indiana University.

4/13/21 8:25pm

Meh... most places want to see your highest education. BYU got cut cause I

Cosmo4life

4/13/21 9:03pm

Really?!?!? Ratings across the nation for grad schools came in recently.....

IAmACougarManSir....

4/13/21 9:38pm

MBA Kelly School of Business.

Cosmo4life

4/14/21 7:17am

Good call. It only makes sense to put your best school on the resume.

IUCougar

4/14/21 10:25am

Go Hoosiers

Cosmo4life

4/14/21 12:32pm

You got to fix that spelling. It is making us look like Purdue grads. 🙂

IUCougar

4/14/21 12:50pm

Haha stinking auto correct.

Cosmo4life

4/14/21 1:15pm

The dean of my east coast law school: "We like BYU grads. A first-rate univer-

Forzaitalia

4/13/21 9:44pm

Agree for now.

Cougstreak

4/14/21 7:59am

Re: diversity

stoils

4/14/21 12:50pm

Re: diversity

Cougstreak

4/14/21 1:20pm

This. It doesn't matter if you're a well rounded person if they think hiring

Tricky

4/14/21 4:38pm

Very sad.

Cougstreak

4/14/21 7:56am

No doubt Academia looks askance at religion generally, which will taint bigots'

Forzaitalia

4/14/21 9:00am

Don't disagree.

Cougstreak

4/14/21 9:09am

Depends on your degree and future plans.

allaboutthegainz

4/13/21 12:09pm

Yeah the Masters Program for Gender Studies at Berkeley is not going to be happy

BYU Grounds

4/13/21 10:38pm

Not in my opinion. I also wouldn’t trade 20 mins per game at BYU for ~30 at UVU

4/13/21 12:11pm

Having a degree from some place other than BYU has not hurt me in any way.

Jimo Dashen

4/13/21 12:11pm

Where you get your college degree doesn’t matter as much as a lot of people

cougman02

4/13/21 12:11pm

Depends on where you want to work.

dtownCoug

4/13/21 12:31pm

Respectfully disagree when comping BYU to UVU.

Cougstreak

4/13/21 5:27pm

Agree, but with a caveat, schools like University of Phoenix dont impress people

SportsRoad

4/14/21 10:37am

Might not have been his choice to leave

DieHarder

4/13/21 12:12pm

Unless you just retire from bball.

runnincoug

4/13/21 12:14pm

Maybe he could have chosen to walk on.

roseyscenario

4/13/21 9:52pm

I'd rather sit the bench at BYU than be a star at UVU anyday

boorad

4/13/21 12:12pm

Competitors want to play

BYUCPA

4/13/21 1:26pm

Harding might already have a degree, or close to it.

BYUCPA

4/13/21 1:27pm

If has his degree then he should just go play at UVU

Cougstreak

4/13/21 5:31pm

I would take playing time at UVU over BYU degree and sitting bench

cougfanz

4/13/21 12:12pm

Heck ya. All of those ladies at UVU

TNT

4/13/21 12:40pm

So, TNT is one of those guys who sit in the SC at UVU and hit on all the ladies

85fan

4/13/21 1:41pm

Well since CH is married to a pretty awesome lady already, let’s hope he’s not interested.

Soupie

4/14/21 12:34am

Me too. I like watching basketball, but playing is better.

j20

4/13/21 2:10pm

To him it might be. Who’s to judge?

Refugee

4/13/21 12:33pm

Me

4/13/21 12:46pm

Good to know…

Refugee

4/13/21 12:58pm

Me too

ochobeeguy

4/13/21 8:15pm

Unless you graduate from an ivy league

Boring

4/13/21 12:48pm

Disagree. Some people have to go to the University of Utah. This shows a

CougarTailDevourer

4/13/21 6:55pm

Ha. Unfortunately not totally true.

Cougstreak

4/13/21 8:22pm

Disagree.

Cougstreak

4/13/21 8:19pm

Definitely do not agree with that

Tuiakismother

4/13/21 10:25pm

UVU pays better coming out of college than BYU does according to study.

tarzan15

4/13/21 12:50pm

in state employers don't care about BYU

palangi

4/13/21 1:17pm

FYI that study is nonsense - not apples to apples comparison

Milton

4/13/21 1:29pm

If you believe this you are in la la land

coot20

4/13/21 4:41pm

So is the study wrong or what, I think an article is stronger than ur opinion

Pappyjord

4/13/21 11:45pm

The methodology of the study is terrible. BYU is way ahead on salaries, but not

4/14/21 3:48am

Where do they get that data!? On the grad level, law and business grads average

Forzaitalia

4/13/21 1:12pm

When I hire, the first thing I look at is the high school ACT score and GPA

UMWolverine

4/13/21 1:23pm

Same here. Those data make zero sense.

Forzaitalia

4/13/21 2:31pm

You can graduate from the school you earn most credits from. So he may finish at

AFitisemanu

4/13/21 1:38pm

Can you expound on this. Does it mean Connor can have a BYU diploma and say on his resume he is a BYU grad? That

HarlemCoug

4/13/21 2:04pm

Depends on what he goes into after school. If it's sales, no. If it's nursing,

Chefcurry

4/13/21 1:43pm

The worth of a degree?

Elvis

4/13/21 2:24pm

Average annual salary is $16K more for BYU grads.

runnincoug

4/13/21 2:37pm

RE: Average annual salary is $16K more for BYU grads.

4/13/21 8:04pm

You dont see a difference between a BYU degree and a UVU degree?

HarlemCoug

4/13/21 2:46pm

Apparently not as much as you do

Tricky

4/13/21 5:23pm

The data are unambiguous. BYU grads get better jobs with higher pay.

HarlemCoug

4/13/21 6:29pm

My experience is that BYU will open more doors than UVU or the U nationally. It

Forzaitalia

4/14/21 9:04am

Having been on an admissions board as a dental student, it would be far better

BYUCLA

4/13/21 6:44pm

it would be far better to go to BYU and get good grades.

HarlemCoug

4/13/21 6:51pm

Law school is similar: LSAT first, then GPA, and the rest pales. Low boards and

Forzaitalia

4/14/21 12:21pm

Dang, was gonna say watch out here comes Harlem

4/13/21 8:02pm

I think Harding is a big loss for BYU.

RedSox

4/13/21 2:48pm

Depends on degree. Most employers don't really care if it's BYU or Whatever Tech

4/13/21 3:09pm

obviously not to Harding

1CougFan

4/13/21 3:13pm

I graduated from UVU

4/13/21 4:57pm

straw man

HarlemCoug

4/13/21 5:11pm

RE: straw man

4/13/21 5:33pm

There is a exception. To everything.

Cougstreak

4/13/21 8:31pm

Calling me an “exception” because I have been

4/13/21 8:43pm

RE: Calling me an “exception” because I have been

Cougstreak

4/13/21 8:58pm

Don’t get me wrong

4/13/21 9:56pm

Not saying that.

Cougstreak

4/14/21 7:48am

You're putting too much weight in to the school and not enough in the person.

j20

4/14/21 8:43am

Agree and disagree.

Cougstreak

4/14/21 9:07am

But you didn't take any stats classes, amirite?

cougargollum

4/14/21 12:08pm

UVU, I feel, put me so far ahead of my peers for professional school, including

Robert Baratheon

4/13/21 5:13pm

So you just disputed your own statement.

ochobeeguy

4/13/21 8:17pm

Lol. Yes I did. Personal dedication>name of school.

Robert Baratheon

4/14/21 2:16pm

Absolutely not.

Cougstreak

4/13/21 5:23pm

Just my opinion, but I think Harding will be a star at UVU...

lbmango

4/13/21 5:51pm

Umm...you don’t go to byu for the degree. You go to play ball. 😉

blueaussie

4/13/21 7:54pm

As a UVU grad I take offense!

Cougphysio

4/13/21 9:04pm

Exactly.

Cougstreak

4/13/21 9:13pm

Maybe it’s because most of the professors I had at UVU said if you miss class

blueaussie

4/13/21 9:24pm

RE: Maybe it’s because most of the professors I had at UVU said if you miss class

Cougstreak

4/14/21 7:53am

Ha! Fair enough. But we obviously have different views on schooling. Then again

blueaussie

4/14/21 9:57am

That's the truth. If a UVU grad graduates with a high GPA then the opportunities

Forzaitalia

4/13/21 9:56pm

Yes. If it was me I would

TunaNoCrust

4/14/21 7:23am

Why do you think a degree form the 80th best undergrad in the US is so valuable?

DoseOfReality

4/14/21 11:18am

Ha, what is UVU ranked?

Cougstreak

4/14/21 1:23pm

Don't know, don't care. 80 is not high enough to be so proud about. I don't brag

DoseOfReality

4/14/21 1:40pm

Kids want to play!

4/14/21 11:37am

I bet if a BYU degree is that important he could reapply and finish his degree

TunaNoCrust

4/14/21 3:52pm

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