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Jun 15, 2021
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YIsForBrigham
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This is not the case according to advanced statistics. Yards after contact is largely independent of the OL talent and
it is indicative of individual talent that translates across competition levels. There's a reason PFF graded him at 92.1 for the season. He's awesome
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POLL: Is Tyler Allgeier a top 10 RB in college football?
CougtheCreator
6/15/21 12:49pm
Heading into 2021 he is. Had a great season last year so deserves the recognition.
Turnpike Lane
6/15/21 12:51pm
I don't think I could name 1 RB from any other team, so I don't know
thewaterboy
6/15/21 12:51pm
This. It's too hard to know when you're not really steeped in other teams' RBs
OldFogey
6/15/21 3:04pm
No idea. I don't think I can name a non-BYU RB.
JuicyJam
6/15/21 12:52pm
He's very good but we had an elite OL destroying G5 dregs most of the year.
ayfan
6/15/21 12:52pm
Like Boise State
Turnpike Lane
6/15/21 12:53pm
Like 75% of our schedule
ayfan
6/15/21 1:06pm
He had 4.7 yards after contact. That has nothing to do with the OL and it translates across competition levels.
YIsForBrigham
6/15/21 12:59pm
I think he's legit. But with a better OL you are to get further without being
ayfan
6/15/21 1:08pm
This is not the case according to advanced statistics. Yards after contact is largely independent of the OL talent and
YIsForBrigham
6/15/21 1:48pm
Do you have a link to back that up, because it is not intuitive
ayfan
6/15/21 1:57pm
The dominant OL is reflected in yards before contact. If you have a dominant OL, they will swallow up defenders
YIsForBrigham
6/15/21 2:15pm
Its common for RB's to get hit right at the LOS, last year Allgeier frequently
ayfan
6/15/21 2:28pm
It doesn’t defy common sense at all. Hitting huge holes is yards before contact. Those holes have no bearing on your
YIsForBrigham
6/15/21 2:33pm
The reason they don't line someone up way behind the LOS
ayfan
6/15/21 2:40pm
Your logic here actually contradicts exactly what you're saying. In an earlier post you are saying that if someone hits
Rise Against
6/15/21 2:43pm
I'm not contradicting myself
ayfan
6/15/21 2:50pm
You clearly have zero clue what you're talking about.
LaVellIfIKnow
6/15/21 2:44pm
You're assuming the RB continues to accelerate most people are at top speed
Kajdin
6/15/21 4:33pm
Sprinters don't hit their top speed in the first 30 meters
ayfan
6/15/21 4:40pm
Yep, the key will be OL play. If they can open holes, he'll be a load.
Bobby Lee Swagger
6/15/21 4:25pm
Most great RBs have great OLs. Id wager all. Because RBs go as the OL goes
Lip Gallagher
6/15/21 5:56pm
Not Barry Sanders, sadly.
Rise Against
6/15/21 9:52pm
I think he’s a system guy that is very productive in BYU’s offense
SJS
6/15/21 12:53pm
If Jamal Williams is an NFL RB, I think Tyler Allgier looks the part.
byusage
6/15/21 1:06pm
Bookmarked
SJS
6/15/21 1:31pm
System guy who has over 150 carries and 4.7 yards after contact? Here's that list in college football last year
YIsForBrigham
6/15/21 2:02pm
It's like the same argument as with Wilson. Sure, he didn't play P5 teams, but
byusage
6/15/21 2:43pm
What surprised my last year about Allgeier
hrcocoug
6/15/21 1:09pm
Ran a 4.5 forty in the combine they did last yr. He is fast for 220 lbs
Dr T-bone
6/15/21 1:27pm
Pretty impressive to run the same time as McChesney, a top Utah HS Sprinter
ayfan
6/15/21 1:46pm
He ran a 4.39 at the one they did this year
molodyets
6/15/21 2:42pm
And that was laser timed with the pro day equipment, not hand timed.
Rise Against
6/15/21 2:46pm
I vaguely remember that, but couldn't find the post
Dr T-bone
6/15/21 4:01pm
Many BYU fans have made up their mind that he's a "bruiser" type of running back.
Rise Against
6/15/21 2:45pm
Before last season he ran a 4.5 flat same as McChesney.
BYUAnime
6/15/21 3:14pm
abzafrigginlutely
Genghis Spreads
6/15/21 1:11pm
No, but Ropati is
GlutealGuy
6/15/21 1:59pm
Yes, and anyone who doesn't think he is should delete their account.
LaVellIfIKnow
6/15/21 2:47pm
I know he's not Breece Hall, but can't name others; PFF says he's #9
krindorr
6/15/21 3:59pm
A couple other rankings
krindorr
6/15/21 4:04pm
Really, how do we know.
Kilgruman
6/15/21 4:10pm
only a sophomore, still has room to grow and develop
icecougar
6/16/21 11:52am
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