This. It's too hard to know when you're not really steeped in other teams' RBs

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Jun 15, 2021
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POLL: Is Tyler Allgeier a top 10 RB in college football?

CougtheCreator

6/15/21 12:49pm

Heading into 2021 he is. Had a great season last year so deserves the recognition.

Turnpike Lane

6/15/21 12:51pm

I don't think I could name 1 RB from any other team, so I don't know

thewaterboy

6/15/21 12:51pm

This. It's too hard to know when you're not really steeped in other teams' RBs

OldFogey

6/15/21 3:04pm

No idea. I don't think I can name a non-BYU RB.

JuicyJam

6/15/21 12:52pm

He's very good but we had an elite OL destroying G5 dregs most of the year.

ayfan

6/15/21 12:52pm

Like Boise State

Turnpike Lane

6/15/21 12:53pm

Like 75% of our schedule

ayfan

6/15/21 1:06pm

He had 4.7 yards after contact. That has nothing to do with the OL and it translates across competition levels.

YIsForBrigham

6/15/21 12:59pm

I think he's legit. But with a better OL you are to get further without being

ayfan

6/15/21 1:08pm

This is not the case according to advanced statistics. Yards after contact is largely independent of the OL talent and

YIsForBrigham

6/15/21 1:48pm

Do you have a link to back that up, because it is not intuitive

ayfan

6/15/21 1:57pm

The dominant OL is reflected in yards before contact. If you have a dominant OL, they will swallow up defenders

YIsForBrigham

6/15/21 2:15pm

Its common for RB's to get hit right at the LOS, last year Allgeier frequently

ayfan

6/15/21 2:28pm

It doesn’t defy common sense at all. Hitting huge holes is yards before contact. Those holes have no bearing on your

YIsForBrigham

6/15/21 2:33pm

The reason they don't line someone up way behind the LOS

ayfan

6/15/21 2:40pm

Your logic here actually contradicts exactly what you're saying. In an earlier post you are saying that if someone hits

Rise Against

6/15/21 2:43pm

I'm not contradicting myself

ayfan

6/15/21 2:50pm

You clearly have zero clue what you're talking about.

LaVellIfIKnow

6/15/21 2:44pm

You're assuming the RB continues to accelerate most people are at top speed

Kajdin

6/15/21 4:33pm

Sprinters don't hit their top speed in the first 30 meters

ayfan

6/15/21 4:40pm

Yep, the key will be OL play. If they can open holes, he'll be a load.

Bobby Lee Swagger

6/15/21 4:25pm

Most great RBs have great OLs. Id wager all. Because RBs go as the OL goes

Lip Gallagher

6/15/21 5:56pm

Not Barry Sanders, sadly.

Rise Against

6/15/21 9:52pm

I think he’s a system guy that is very productive in BYU’s offense

SJS

6/15/21 12:53pm

If Jamal Williams is an NFL RB, I think Tyler Allgier looks the part.

byusage

6/15/21 1:06pm

Bookmarked

SJS

6/15/21 1:31pm

System guy who has over 150 carries and 4.7 yards after contact? Here's that list in college football last year

YIsForBrigham

6/15/21 2:02pm

It's like the same argument as with Wilson. Sure, he didn't play P5 teams, but

byusage

6/15/21 2:43pm

What surprised my last year about Allgeier

hrcocoug

6/15/21 1:09pm

Ran a 4.5 forty in the combine they did last yr. He is fast for 220 lbs

Dr T-bone

6/15/21 1:27pm

Pretty impressive to run the same time as McChesney, a top Utah HS Sprinter

ayfan

6/15/21 1:46pm

He ran a 4.39 at the one they did this year

molodyets

6/15/21 2:42pm

And that was laser timed with the pro day equipment, not hand timed.

Rise Against

6/15/21 2:46pm

I vaguely remember that, but couldn't find the post

Dr T-bone

6/15/21 4:01pm

Many BYU fans have made up their mind that he's a "bruiser" type of running back.

Rise Against

6/15/21 2:45pm

Before last season he ran a 4.5 flat same as McChesney.

BYUAnime

6/15/21 3:14pm

abzafrigginlutely

Genghis Spreads

6/15/21 1:11pm

No, but Ropati is

GlutealGuy

6/15/21 1:59pm

Yes, and anyone who doesn't think he is should delete their account.

LaVellIfIKnow

6/15/21 2:47pm

I know he's not Breece Hall, but can't name others; PFF says he's #9

krindorr

6/15/21 3:59pm

A couple other rankings

krindorr

6/15/21 4:04pm

Really, how do we know.

Kilgruman

6/15/21 4:10pm

only a sophomore, still has room to grow and develop

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