Nah. He stood out in rookie minicamp

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Jun 20, 2021
7:30:31pm

bluelands All-American

Nah. He stood out in rookie minicamp

I thought he was misused at BYU. He missed a lot of tackles his last year, because he was having to come from out of his area of responsibility and try and make open field tackles to cover for the rest of the defense. Hindsight is 20/20, but he should have been put in a position to do more damage

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bluelands

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Has Fred Warner made drastic improvements since leaving BYU, or was he just under appreciated/valued while here?

Hank Rearden All-American

6/20/21 7:16pm

He was played out of position. But he was still good.

Backcountry

6/20/21 7:17pm

This. We desperately needed his pass-coverage abilities, so he basically played safety (or nickel) for us. Officially,

dilbert

6/20/21 7:21pm

And his coverage skills are what set him apart in the NFL

Tare

6/20/21 7:33pm

No he wasn't.

6/20/21 8:01pm

Ok Lip!

Backcountry

6/20/21 8:17pm

He was an outside backer at BYU and the NFL immediately moved him inside

BYUAnime

6/20/21 10:26pm

He fits the definition of a prototype Will as much as Mike.

6/20/21 10:46pm

He is one of the best backers in the NFL. Did anyone see that coming?

TNT

6/20/21 7:18pm

Me

DodgerMike

6/20/21 7:28pm

Dont know if I saw that, but saw he would be a good NFL linebacker

juantoad

6/20/21 10:55pm

Played a lot in the slot and coverages if I

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:18pm

He must have played out of position as he was good but not great his sr year

idacoug

6/20/21 7:19pm

So maybe misused at BYU?

6/20/21 7:20pm

BYU needed him where they played him. There was an article about it posted by

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:21pm

Out of place or not a good fit for our system? I still have to think some of it he has improved in the NFL?

6/20/21 7:23pm

Yeah, surely he is better today than he was when he left BYU.

dilbert

6/20/21 7:25pm

He bulked up significantly. He could have played anywhere in our system. He was

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:28pm

I still remember going to practice. Physically he stuck out like a sore thumb,

Adwight

6/20/21 7:43pm

Nah. He stood out in rookie minicamp

bluelands

6/20/21 7:30pm

His play at byu is what made them try him out how they did at the senior

6/20/21 8:07pm

In my opinion he was great. I remember him making a fourth of the plays as our

juantoad

6/20/21 10:57pm

Our team around him was just not great. If there had been more talent in the secondary and on the line, he would

6/20/21 7:30pm

Secondary was the issue. We needed him to cover for the safeties

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:32pm

Of course, he’s now a generational cover LB so maybe for him it was valuable time to hone his skills

6/20/21 7:34pm

Good point.

dilbert

6/20/21 7:36pm

If we blame it on the support he had, shouldn’t recruits go to other teams?

Go_Banana

6/20/21 11:23pm

No. The talent level has been fixed. That was a particularly bad time for BYU. You may have noticed in 2017

6/21/21 7:10am

Talent improved, but there are other teams with much higher talent to support em

Go_Banana

6/22/21 9:58am

The talent level is high enough now that individual talent can shine. 2017 was a disaster of epic proportions.

6/22/21 10:10am

Yes.

Bandit

6/20/21 8:21pm

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