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Jun 20, 2021
8:17:29pm

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Previous username: The Lone Wolf
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Has Fred Warner made drastic improvements since leaving BYU, or was he just under appreciated/valued while here?

Hank Rearden All-American

6/20/21 7:16pm

He was played out of position. But he was still good.

Backcountry

6/20/21 7:17pm

This. We desperately needed his pass-coverage abilities, so he basically played safety (or nickel) for us. Officially,

dilbert

6/20/21 7:21pm

And his coverage skills are what set him apart in the NFL

Tare

6/20/21 7:33pm

No he wasn't.

6/20/21 8:01pm

Ok Lip!

Backcountry

6/20/21 8:17pm

He was an outside backer at BYU and the NFL immediately moved him inside

BYUAnime

6/20/21 10:26pm

He fits the definition of a prototype Will as much as Mike.

6/20/21 10:46pm

He is one of the best backers in the NFL. Did anyone see that coming?

TNT

6/20/21 7:18pm

Me

DodgerMike

6/20/21 7:28pm

Dont know if I saw that, but saw he would be a good NFL linebacker

juantoad

6/20/21 10:55pm

Played a lot in the slot and coverages if I

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:18pm

He must have played out of position as he was good but not great his sr year

idacoug

6/20/21 7:19pm

So maybe misused at BYU?

6/20/21 7:20pm

BYU needed him where they played him. There was an article about it posted by

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:21pm

Out of place or not a good fit for our system? I still have to think some of it he has improved in the NFL?

6/20/21 7:23pm

Yeah, surely he is better today than he was when he left BYU.

dilbert

6/20/21 7:25pm

He bulked up significantly. He could have played anywhere in our system. He was

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:28pm

I still remember going to practice. Physically he stuck out like a sore thumb,

Adwight

6/20/21 7:43pm

Nah. He stood out in rookie minicamp

bluelands

6/20/21 7:30pm

His play at byu is what made them try him out how they did at the senior

6/20/21 8:07pm

In my opinion he was great. I remember him making a fourth of the plays as our

juantoad

6/20/21 10:57pm

Our team around him was just not great. If there had been more talent in the secondary and on the line, he would

6/20/21 7:30pm

Secondary was the issue. We needed him to cover for the safeties

kotacoug

6/20/21 7:32pm

Of course, he’s now a generational cover LB so maybe for him it was valuable time to hone his skills

6/20/21 7:34pm

Good point.

dilbert

6/20/21 7:36pm

If we blame it on the support he had, shouldn’t recruits go to other teams?

Go_Banana

6/20/21 11:23pm

No. The talent level has been fixed. That was a particularly bad time for BYU. You may have noticed in 2017

6/21/21 7:10am

Talent improved, but there are other teams with much higher talent to support em

Go_Banana

6/22/21 9:58am

The talent level is high enough now that individual talent can shine. 2017 was a disaster of epic proportions.

6/22/21 10:10am

Yes.

Bandit

6/20/21 8:21pm

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