One of those extremely rare gender issues where the unfairness to most women is

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Jun 24, 2021
11:38:33am

Forzaitalia Contributor

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Forzaitalia

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This is tricky, really feel for her. Biological female with hyperandrogenism

Incentivize

6/24/21 9:51am

its not that tricky. she doesn't qualify. if i were 7'4" I'd be in the NBA.

johnnycarson

6/24/21 9:53am

Isn't this kind of like saying you can't even try to play in the NBA because

HRCougar

6/24/21 9:55am

Or that you can’t play in the WNBA because you’re too tall, and that your only

garyfan

6/24/21 10:04am

RE: its not that tricky. she doesn't qualify. if i were 7'4" I'd be in the

rad dawg

6/24/21 9:57am

IMO, the rules should be based on birth sex. If born female at birth with this

Baron

6/24/21 9:56am

Agreed.

cougfanblue

6/24/21 9:56am

This is still tricky as intersex are typically "assigned" a sex.

Incentivize

6/24/21 9:57am

Intersex, they get to choose.

Baron

6/24/21 9:58am

People always get caught up in the .00000001% exceptions. Let them choose and

NOCAL_YFAN

6/24/21 10:00am

Chromosomal sex is easier

Turnpike Lane

6/24/21 10:08am

Works for me too.

Baron

6/24/21 10:29am

I said biological female but it is likely that she has both male and female biol

Incentivize

6/24/21 9:58am

Personally, she's born a female so she competes as a female.

cruoti

6/24/21 9:59am

I bet she has a y chromosome.

ParentingNotForSissy

6/24/21 11:10am

Equality…. Let the best regardless of gender all compete against each other.

kotacoug

6/24/21 10:08am

This line of thinking is flat out wrong.

Soupie

6/24/21 10:17am

I think 'kotacoug' was being sarcastic?

BleedCougarBlue2

6/24/21 10:28am

RE: I think 'kotacoug' was being sarcastic?

kotacoug

6/24/21 10:29am

Yes. I realize that.

Soupie

6/24/21 10:34am

Well if society is being true to it’s equality stance and not hypocritical…

kotacoug

6/24/21 10:31am

I wonder which events biological women would actually compete in if the was real

Pretorian

6/24/21 11:24am

If she's biologically a female then she deserves to compete w/ women. Period.

BleedCougarBlue2

6/24/21 10:26am

well there's the problem. how do you define that?

johnnycarson

6/24/21 10:30am

XX or XY. IF a variant, then set some rules for that. But chromosomal sex is the simplest starting point.

Turnpike Lane

6/24/21 10:40am

So like a testosterone limit?

kotacoug

6/24/21 10:42am

That's only a "problem" to the left.

BleedCougarBlue2

6/24/21 2:55pm

It simply isn’t fair for her to be allowed to compete against xx females

TrackCoug

6/24/21 10:32am

I somewhat agree but I don't think arbitrarily setting a maximum threshold for

Megamind

6/24/21 11:02am

Are you saying people that aren’t XX or XY should have their own competitions?

PHXSUNS31

6/24/21 11:08am

Probably. The reality is that when biological differences are that extreme

Megamind

6/24/21 11:16am

The problem is that is essentially the same as saying, sorry you can’t compete

PHXSUNS31

6/24/21 11:25am

This is true and unfortunate. However I don't think there is a solution to that

Megamind

6/24/21 11:50am

It's why ADA doesn't cover blind pilots or surgeons. At some point you must be able to perform the task.

Soupie

6/24/21 11:59am

But what if the pilot or surgeon had a weird genetic thing that made them better

PHXSUNS31

6/24/21 12:34pm

The analogy doesn’t work

TrackCoug

6/24/21 12:49pm

Just simply responding to Soupie as I didn’t think his analogy really applied

PHXSUNS31

6/24/21 1:27pm

It’s not guesses

TrackCoug

6/24/21 2:05pm

Well my mistake, I read that her test results were never revealed

PHXSUNS31

6/24/21 2:25pm

I was more referring to Megamind's inability to perform on an NFL roster.

Soupie

6/24/21 2:45pm

Gotcha, makes sense

PHXSUNS31

6/24/21 3:03pm

IMO, Caster is far more interesting than most gender issues.

CosmoK

6/24/21 10:55am

One of those extremely rare gender issues where the unfairness to most women is

Forzaitalia

6/24/21 11:38am

Let 👏 Kawhi 👏 compete👏!!!

Bluedarts

6/24/21 1:00pm

Semenya is a biological male

TrackCoug

6/24/21 2:45pm

If this ^^^^is true, people need to ask themselves, why is this an issue at all?

Pretorian

6/25/21 7:44am

Cheating? She was raised female and possibly didn’t know until later in life

PHXSUNS31

6/25/21 8:13am

Forgive me, when I read technically male, I excluded those very unique scenarios

Pretorian

6/25/21 12:05pm

Ya it’s just a tricky situation that doesn’t have a good answer unfortunately.

PHXSUNS31

6/25/21 12:15pm

Indeed, I do feel for those that have to deal with those challenges….

Pretorian

6/25/21 2:01pm

What if she was XY without male anatomy?

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