you said a .500 record against the PAC 12 was horrible. I pointed out that your team's record is about that. So, ergo you think your team is horrible. I didn't say that, you did. You want to talk about BYU's overall record against the Pac 12 but only want to talk about the last three years for the Utes. LOL ok. That kind of logic will be a lot more impressive on a Ute board, if there is one. I wish you luck in finding it.