then every year is an outlier for Utah because they're so different from...

Aug 2, 2021
6:40:15pm

icecougar All-American

...the typical Pac-12 type team. Opposing teams in their conference aren't built to match up well with Utah and thus they're unprepared to play them. Every year is an outlier. Its the same advantage that AFA had on teams in the MWC, they were a very different team to prepare for than anybody else in the conference.

Also, Huntley had little to no variance in PER between his first 3 years as a QB compared with his senior year. 143, 138 and 140 then 177. Plot that out on a graph and it's almost a straight line with a very slight decline until his senior year. Is it a coincidence that Huntley had his best year (an outlier) only when Moss had his Pac12 OPOY season?

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Masen Wake responds to Ute fan

snowbird

8/1/21 6:45pm

Yewts forfeited last year.

MightyFreakingCougar

8/1/21 6:54pm

No they didn't

Sea Chicken

8/1/21 6:56pm

The Pac12 forfeited. Utah did not protest.

ParentingNotForSissy

8/1/21 7:19pm

Guilty by association. 👍😁😂

TrueBlue67

8/1/21 7:53pm

They will be really good

slowhiteguy

8/1/21 6:57pm

3-3

Turnpike Lane

8/1/21 7:31pm

3-3 against the PAC for Utah would be horrible

Z-Ute

8/2/21 10:05am

horrible? I think you meant "typical"

yahtzee

8/2/21 11:17am

You are confusing your P5 record with ours, come see us when you aren't 29%

Z-Ute

8/2/21 3:41pm

Ah, so you really DID mean that Utah's record in the Pac12 has been horrible

yahtzee

8/2/21 4:10pm

Time to adjust but 17-8 the last 3 years is alright, two South titles

Z-Ute

8/2/21 4:31pm

you seem to be having a hard time with this.

yahtzee

8/2/21 4:41pm

oh, keep modifying that message. you'll figure it out one of these times.

yahtzee

8/2/21 4:43pm

seriously though. 6th time will be the charm I'm sure.

yahtzee

8/2/21 4:43pm

Yes, I did add to it, went back to see the last sub .500 season we had in

Z-Ute

8/2/21 5:52pm

I literally never talked smack.

yahtzee

8/2/21 6:13pm

You seem to be missing my point.

Z-Ute

8/2/21 5:42pm

Ah I see now. You just think Pac12 is a terrible conference

yahtzee

8/2/21 6:16pm

Drinking water from the same aquifers, using the same message board, similar

shamc

8/3/21 9:06am

Dont be that guy. It's a really embarrassing look.

Backcountry

8/1/21 7:51pm

Hahaha...you pretending to be a BYU fan is embarrassing

Preppy

8/2/21 10:08am

He used to hide it better.

CougtheCreator

8/2/21 10:29am

Clever!

Backcountry

8/3/21 10:21am

I agree they definitely didn’t want to play us.

Robbinoburrito

8/1/21 8:00pm

Lol just be happy with your season last yr.

DrJazzy

8/1/21 8:09pm

Coastal would have won the pac 10 or 11 or whatever that dumpster fire

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/1/21 9:08pm

Nope.

Jdoc

8/1/21 9:59pm

I dunno…

DrJazzy

8/2/21 6:59am

So.....you are a Doctor?

WJCougar

8/2/21 7:37am

Sooooo you a WJ Coug???

DrJazzy

8/2/21 9:42am

Pac lost 8 out of 12 to the mountain west.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/2/21 7:43am

Coastal Carolina didn’t smoke anyone that was good. They lost to Liberty for

Jdoc

8/2/21 7:50am

Dude... you are failing to recognize the pac have overwhelming losing record to

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/2/21 1:55pm

Delusional yewts like this DrJazzy guy still post here. Good times!

shammy

8/2/21 8:56am

Haha Utah fans aren’t the ones talking about BYU to SEC/B10 invites.

DrJazzy

8/2/21 9:43am

LoL what BYU fans are talking about that? I haven't seen that. With a fanbase

IceCreamButt

8/2/21 10:01am

I try my best! And I do it because I care 🙂

DrJazzy

8/2/21 10:04am

RE: I try my best! And I do it because I care 🙂

CougtheCreator

8/2/21 10:29am

Still 1,000,000 times better than being

DrJazzy

8/2/21 9:43am

Why do you post here? Join the terrible yewt boards filled with trashy yewt fans

shammy

8/2/21 11:07am

It’s fun to post here (sometimes).

DrJazzy

8/2/21 1:10pm

Oh we tugged on some sensitive strings. Looks like the truth is causing some

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/2/21 2:00pm

Haha I think it’s pretty obvious who is the one with the dusty eyes…

DrJazzy

8/2/21 2:04pm

Says the guy on his rivals board. Thanks for the entertainment. Don’t get so

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/2/21 6:51pm

I’d only be hurt if my favorite team had lost 9 straight the the big dog

DrJazzy

8/2/21 9:46pm

Posting on your rival's board is pathetic. You should acknowledge that the yewt

shammy

8/2/21 10:15pm

I’m sorry facts and my words hurt you 😕

DrJazzy

8/2/21 10:29pm

Lol. I'm sorry that you are reduced to self-delusion. It's sad.

shammy

8/3/21 7:51am

We’ll chat some more after 10 straight wins 😃

DrJazzy

8/2/21 2:05pm

Why not chat about the game last year?

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/2/21 6:53pm

About a game that didn’t happen?

DrJazzy

8/2/21 10:28pm

I would say I love that you came to troll, and got so easily trolled instead,

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/2/21 11:26pm

*hugs*

DrJazzy

8/3/21 9:53am

You are on your rivals board. I just feel bad for you. I can’t even engage

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/3/21 1:40pm

Same to you! Enjoyed the back and forth. Have a good one!

DrJazzy

8/3/21 2:05pm

Yet your own fans pay more $ to watch BYU play than any other team

zerome4sooners

8/2/21 4:38pm

We’re a sucker for near guaranteed wins.

DrJazzy

8/2/21 4:46pm

At least you got the first part right.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8/2/21 6:52pm

Soak it in. 6 more weeks

zerome4sooners

8/2/21 11:29pm

My point still stands. It was definitely not a gimme for Utah last year.

Robbinoburrito

8/2/21 2:58pm

Stop it.

blueshorts

8/1/21 8:54pm

I agree. Too scared to show, that’s a forfeit

zerome4sooners

8/1/21 9:09pm

RE: Yewts forfeited last year.

jimmything

8/1/21 10:29pm

RE: Yewts forfeited last year.

jimmything

8/1/21 10:33pm

They didn’t forfeit per se but they didn’t play the game so streak is over

ColonelMustard

8/1/21 11:16pm

Maybe true, but BYU still didn't win.

Cougar8Duck

8/2/21 11:23am

Read the definition of forfeit. It involves loss because of wrongdoing.

canofpicante

8/2/21 1:27pm

Here is a nice story about Madsen Wake honoring his late Mom. Seems like a solid

Jdoc

8/1/21 7:02pm

If BYU loses to Utah, 10 or 15 more times in a row — I’m done.

Zach Morris

8/1/21 7:10pm

However many years Kyle is there, pencil in a a loss. We may well hit 15

Backcountry

8/1/21 7:52pm

Only people pretending to be byu fans pencil automatic losses.

Lip Gallagher

8/1/21 8:18pm

Well I have been correct every year since 11 so Id say my record is pretty good.

Backcountry

8/1/21 8:48pm

Lol well nobody ever accused you of being a byu fan, that's for sure.

Lip Gallagher

8/1/21 8:53pm

Original take, Lip

Backcountry

8/1/21 8:59pm

I mean, you go right ahead and try convincing anyone on here that you've

Lip Gallagher

8/1/21 9:05pm

Your opinion is so beyond meaningless. Think what you will.

Backcountry

8/1/21 10:35pm

Real fans have to be counterfactual apparently

run26

8/1/21 9:05pm

Scalley will step in and keep the streak going!

Z-Ute

8/2/21 10:08am

This is 100% accurate.

DrJazzy

8/2/21 10:14am

Ah, so embracing the racist DC is your great hope for the future? Lol. Scalley

CougarTailDevourer

8/2/21 10:20am

It's funny, If Scalley we're to step in as head coach at Utah all will be well

CougtheCreator

8/2/21 10:31am

You are probably not totally wrong

salamishiitake

8/2/21 4:30pm

What would be better Scalley at BYU or Max at Utah?

Z-Ute

8/2/21 4:42pm

When did Max use a racial slur? Totally different world's lol

CougtheCreator

8/2/21 4:54pm

mmmm... I don't think he is referring to the racial slur incident

salamishiitake

8/2/21 5:21pm

Now this dude gets it!

Z-Ute

8/2/21 5:58pm

RE: Now this dude gets it!

IceCreamButt

8/2/21 6:11pm

My hope is the players are fed up and take it to the yewts

CougtheCreator

8/1/21 7:13pm

I think it starts with the coach. I think Kalani has went through some growing pains and has learned a few things

Zach Morris

8/1/21 7:31pm

I dont think it would matter if Whitt murdered Kalanis family. The talent gap is

Backcountry

8/1/21 7:53pm

I’ve considered that at times but then you look at when Mangum brought them back from down 28 or 35 or when Zach had 21

Zach Morris

8/1/21 8:04pm

I get it and I definitely think there's a lot of truth to that.

Backcountry

8/1/21 8:31pm

Too many close games to say we can’t overcome them

deliciousmocha

8/1/21 8:14pm

Utah has advantages, sure, but the more talented team doesn't always win

krindorr

8/1/21 8:14pm

I didnt say forever. I just say not until Whitt is gone.

Backcountry

8/1/21 8:32pm

The race is not always to the swift and the strong . . .

Brigham

8/2/21 6:12am

Yeah, Utah is more likely to win any given game. But not 10 in a row

krindorr

8/2/21 6:28am

Too wide to overcome? Most years they're barely sneaking out wins.

Lip Gallagher

8/1/21 8:44pm

We've been over this Lip. The games are never as close as the score indicates.

Backcountry

8/1/21 8:51pm

Never huh? You don't even hide it anymore. Lol change your little name icon

Lip Gallagher

8/1/21 8:57pm

After you stop with the goofy takes.

Backcountry

8/1/21 8:59pm

So you're sticking with "never?"

Lip Gallagher

8/1/21 9:07pm

I don’t think the talent gap is really that wide at least

1CougFan

8/2/21 7:05am

Kyle really does focus on us which makes me wonder how they don’t lose focus on

ColonelMustard

8/1/21 11:19pm

I think they do. Utah almost always has a letdown after the rivalry game.

Backcountry

8/1/21 11:20pm

You lost me at “has went through.” Never mind the improper use of “then.”

Soy Celeste

8/2/21 3:10am

I agree that Whit wants the win but

Z-Ute

8/2/21 10:16am

What passing game lol.

CougtheCreator

8/2/21 10:33am

You know, the passing game that made Huntley a better QB than Wilson. That

IceCreamButt

8/2/21 10:54am

We’ve been over this. Huntley was better

Yergensen

8/2/21 11:04am

We've never been over this. I've never interacted with you. I would surely

IceCreamButt

8/2/21 11:10am

Don’t deflect, what do the 2019 stats say?

Yergensen

8/2/21 11:25am

There are 2 big differences between Zach and Huntley.

CougtheCreator

8/2/21 12:04pm

Disagree with multiple things you claim.

Yergensen

8/2/21 12:32pm

still having a hard time accepting that Zach was the #2 overall pick eh?

icecougar

8/2/21 1:04pm

That’s not it. If you look at other posts from me re:Zach, I think he’s good.

Yergensen

8/2/21 1:19pm

Not a fair comparison; two major flawed arguments

krindorr

8/2/21 2:01pm

I wasn't making an argument in that post. I was...

icecougar

8/2/21 2:43pm

so you think comparing a senior multi-year starter vs a sophomore who started...

icecougar

8/2/21 2:39pm

We can flip it around and ask how Huntley would have done against

Yergensen

8/2/21 3:13pm

Was that the same Alex Smith that went #1?

Z-Ute

8/2/21 4:46pm

We'll never know how Huntley would've done playing at BYU in 2020...

icecougar

8/2/21 6:12pm

Are you saying that Smith's favorable circumstance was coming out in a weak QB..

icecougar

8/2/21 6:23pm

If you don't want to get circumstantial then compare junior seasons for both...

icecougar

8/2/21 6:47pm

All credit to ZW. He’s very good but if you think all Huntley did was run set

NotTokolosh

8/2/21 1:59pm

Lol, his stats weren't better. He was inferior in every single recorded stat to

CougarTailDevourer

8/2/21 2:42pm

Seriously? You want to adjust for SOS?

Yergensen

8/2/21 3:20pm

SOS! Lol!!! The PAC12 stinks, and they were especially bad that year. Utah had

CougarTailDevourer

8/2/21 5:03pm

So beat the REALLY bad teams 30-12?

Z-Ute

8/2/21 5:24pm

Yup, just like BYU did with the bad teams. Except BYU beat them by even higher

CougarTailDevourer

8/2/21 5:31pm

LOL, it was BYU that lowered our SOS, what was yours last year 106?

Z-Ute

8/2/21 6:01pm

Utah's was 50's and that's only because they had teams like Oregon and Texas on

CougarTailDevourer

8/2/21 6:16pm

In fairness BYU 2020 opponents were substantially worse than Utah 2019 opponents

krindorr

8/2/21 6:17pm

Now consider this.

Z-Ute

8/2/21 6:23pm

Apples to oranges. Now do 2019 for both. The last “normal” year both played.

NotTokolosh

8/2/21 3:21pm

That's also apples to oranges. Huntley was a senior and Zach a sophomore. Why...

icecougar

8/3/21 10:41am

Huntley is 1-0 vs Zach.

DrJazzy

8/3/21 11:06am

Again meaningless as you ignore strength of schedule. ZW had a bad year playing

NotTokolosh

8/3/21 2:16pm

and Huntley did it on a team enjoying a p5 recruiting advantage, receiving..

icecougar

8/9/21 5:08pm

2020 Wilson was 2019 Huntley on steroids

icecougar

8/2/21 6:04pm

Again. Apples to oranges. You guys sure like to look past SOS. Hope ZW does well

NotTokolosh

8/2/21 7:33pm

And you guys are obsessed with it when it involves BYU. However…

icecougar

8/3/21 3:38am

stats are for nerds. Advanced analytics don't agree with your assessments

icecougar

8/2/21 6:26pm

speaking of outlier years...Huntley's senior year was an outlier...

icecougar

8/2/21 1:40pm

Not in SOS. ZW 2020 season was an outlier in SOS and...

Yergensen

8/2/21 3:23pm

then every year is an outlier for Utah because they're so different from...

icecougar

8/2/21 6:40pm

College QB and yes, Huntley didn't face high school teams to get his stats.

Z-Ute

8/2/21 5:03pm

If Whit had a passing game, why has he waited 17 years to unveil it?

CougarTailDevourer

8/2/21 10:38am

Against BYU he hasn't needed it, run the ball and let your QB throw us TDs.

Z-Ute

8/2/21 4:16pm

u dont think the other BYU teams tried? Bad take

Swishfromdeep3

8/2/21 11:29am

And you thought his was a bad take?

Z-Ute

8/2/21 4:03pm

Instant immortality is there for the taking for whomever is QB1 if we win.

NWCoug

8/1/21 7:53pm

Grown men using a Uboyz hashtag

whoneedscorners?

8/1/21 8:44pm

What a champ. Im going to have fun watching him

AltTabbins

8/1/21 9:54pm

I am shocked, shocked!!

refunder

8/2/21 11:06am

This has been a fantastic thread.

DrJazzy

8/3/21 11:07am

There are some good Utes on CB but not one posted in this thread.

Napoli

8/3/21 11:23am

My feelings are officially hurt

salamishiitake

8/3/21 12:58pm

As are mine……..

DrJazzy

8/3/21 1:05pm

RE: As are mine……..

shamc

8/3/21 1:30pm

TRUE FACT. You hurt their feelings, but they are used to being rejected IRL.

Go_Banana

8/3/21 2:08pm

In all likelihood yes, in 42 days ten is coming

Princepete

8/3/21 1:51pm

In 52 is coming?

shamc

8/3/21 3:07pm

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