One could argue the 1st year of a rebuild shouldn’t be held against the HC

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Sep 25, 2021
8:12:52am

Odysseus Head Gamemaker

Especially since 2-10 is such a big outlier for him.

Heck, I’m not sure how much blame Kalani deserves for 2017.

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Odysseus

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I’ve gone from thinking Bronco was a top 20 coach to now thinking he’s average

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:09am

Why would you ignore his first season?

LEHI cougar

9/25/21 8:10am

One could argue the 1st year of a rebuild shouldn’t be held against the HC

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:12am

Hope LDS recruits see it. Because it’s a thing.

Turnpike Lane

9/25/21 8:11am

You have a mediocre EQ pres?

daki

9/25/21 8:11am

Great guy but would definitely be a subpar D1 coach. He’s a very good EQP ftr

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:13am

Seems that’s more likely than not

SouthernBlueBlood

9/25/21 8:22am

To be fair, That's not really underachieving at UVa

fattycoug

9/25/21 8:11am

BYU finished in the top 25 in 2011 and finishing unranked is the norm for UVA

Food Snob

9/25/21 8:14am

I’m seeing the last AP Top 25 finish being in 2009

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:18am

Coaches poll in 2011

Food Snob

9/25/21 8:19am

Ok, so 10 years ago he coached a borderline Top 25 team. I think any average

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:21am

Virginia was the ACC equivalent of Kansas, Rutgers, Vanderbilt, etc.

CaliWG

9/25/21 8:14am

Yeah but is he resorting back to the mean?

Turnpike Lane

9/25/21 8:16am

Mike London was bad, but they were a better program under Al Groh and George

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:17am

Well they won the Coastal & went to an Orange Bowl, so that's hard to top.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 8:42am

Context acc coastal qas in transition. Most teams

CarolinaCoug

9/25/21 9:36am

And? He won it.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 9:51am

Yup and i beat a 12 year old 100-6 in basketball.I AM THE GREATEST!!

CarolinaCoug

9/25/21 9:59am

That’s not a solid comparison

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 10:02am

That’s unfair. George Welsh had UVa competing at a high level for a long time.

Six Foot Seven

9/25/21 8:27am

Finished ranked six times in 19 years. 12 bowl appearances.

Coop

9/25/21 9:27am

Fake news. False. Incorrect and wrong. DUKE and wake were Always the worst.

CarolinaCoug

9/25/21 9:08am

UVA has 9 ranked finishes, 2 shared conference titles, and 1 division title

Kajdin

9/25/21 8:17am

Utah wasn’t a good program until Urban came along. A good coach can build a

Fatalplacebo

9/25/21 8:22am

Bronco isn't Lavell or Urban he's good but hasn't shown that ability

Kajdin

9/25/21 8:26am

Uh yeah. That was the point of the OP. My point was that it doesn’t take

Fatalplacebo

9/25/21 8:47am

LaVell and Urban aren’t just “good coaches.” They’re two of the best coaches ever

Alpi Gusto

9/25/21 10:02am

The former coach was 27-46. Before that? 59-53. It gets a little better then

P-Widdy

9/25/21 8:23am

I think he's above average at taking dumpster fire programs and making them at

Goliath

9/25/21 8:24am

He took UVA to an Orange Bowl and beat Virginia Tech.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 8:29am

If you can go to the Orange Bowl and not finish top 25 then the Orange Bowl

Odysseus

9/25/21 11:13am

Ranking doesn’t pay the school. Orange bowl does.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 11:19am

Sure, it’s better for a program. But it’s not much of an on-field accomplishment

Odysseus

9/25/21 11:27am

It’s not like saying bronco is better than sitake.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 11:36am

He’s not terrible. He’s mediocre

Odysseus

9/25/21 11:41am

If mediocre means going to bowl games often and making millions im jealous

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 1:50pm

Yes, I would rather be a mediocre D1 football coach than work my current day job

Odysseus

9/25/21 1:57pm

Stop. You have zero credential to call him mediocre.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 2:05pm

I don’t have the credentials to say Nathan Peterman is a bad NFL QB either but

Odysseus

9/25/21 2:28pm

There is no other catalyst right now other than losing recruits.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 3:02pm

Noki minaj makes more.

CarolinaCoug

9/25/21 2:13pm

I’m withholding my vote until after he plays against BYU

CougarCanuck76

9/25/21 8:33am

Decent is how I would classify him.

Sooner Cougar

9/25/21 8:38am

I think he’s an elite DC and slightly above average HC

KingDave

9/25/21 8:39am

Agree. Defensive genius. NFL caliber guy.

Backcountry

9/25/21 8:46am

So bizarre how everyone was so blind to his mediocrity while he was here. It was

Backcountry

9/25/21 8:44am

I’ve gone from many cbers thinking I was a jerk for calling for Bronco to be replaced since 2012, to still thinking

Zach Morris

9/25/21 8:45am

I feel ya. Ive taken a beating for a decade now for talking about Broncos

Backcountry

9/25/21 8:48am

I definitely fit the description of your last paragraph

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:54am

Its about time! Its been obvious for years.

CarolinaCoug

9/25/21 9:04am

This

OldFogey

9/25/21 9:09am

He’s a great coach. But BYU was an especially good fit for his skill set.

All-American

9/25/21 9:44am

He isnt. We have years worth at 2 programs. He is average...

CarolinaCoug

9/25/21 10:19am

Why are people hittin' on Bronco on these boards - he's done quite a job turning

BYUFootballRocks1

9/25/21 11:03am

It’s going to be rough sledding for him now that he can’t rely on the previous

Hutch65

9/25/21 11:05am

The roster for the orange bowl team a couple years ago was mainly his recruits

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