LaVell and Urban aren’t just “good coaches.” They’re two of the best coaches ever

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Sep 25, 2021
10:02:26am

Alpi Gusto All-American

LaVell and Urban aren’t just “good coaches.” They’re two of the best coaches ever

You can’t say “a good coach can make any program great” and then use those two as examples.

OP said that Bronco probably isn’t a top 20 college football coach. Idk if he’s top 20 or not, but a top 20 coach doesn’t automatically mean their team will be great every year.

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I’ve gone from thinking Bronco was a top 20 coach to now thinking he’s average

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:09am

Why would you ignore his first season?

LEHI cougar

9/25/21 8:10am

One could argue the 1st year of a rebuild shouldn’t be held against the HC

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:12am

Hope LDS recruits see it. Because it’s a thing.

9/25/21 8:11am

You have a mediocre EQ pres?

daki

9/25/21 8:11am

Great guy but would definitely be a subpar D1 coach. He’s a very good EQP ftr

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:13am

Seems that’s more likely than not

SouthernBlueBlood

9/25/21 8:22am

To be fair, That's not really underachieving at UVa

fattycoug

9/25/21 8:11am

BYU finished in the top 25 in 2011 and finishing unranked is the norm for UVA

Food Snob

9/25/21 8:14am

I’m seeing the last AP Top 25 finish being in 2009

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:18am

Coaches poll in 2011

Food Snob

9/25/21 8:19am

Ok, so 10 years ago he coached a borderline Top 25 team. I think any average

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:21am

Virginia was the ACC equivalent of Kansas, Rutgers, Vanderbilt, etc.

CaliWG

9/25/21 8:14am

Yeah but is he resorting back to the mean?

9/25/21 8:16am

Mike London was bad, but they were a better program under Al Groh and George

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:17am

Well they won the Coastal & went to an Orange Bowl, so that's hard to top.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 8:42am

Context acc coastal qas in transition. Most teams

9/25/21 9:36am

And? He won it.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 9:51am

Yup and i beat a 12 year old 100-6 in basketball.I AM THE GREATEST!!

9/25/21 9:59am

That’s not a solid comparison

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 10:02am

That’s unfair. George Welsh had UVa competing at a high level for a long time.

9/25/21 8:27am

Finished ranked six times in 19 years. 12 bowl appearances.

Coop

9/25/21 9:27am

Fake news. False. Incorrect and wrong. DUKE and wake were Always the worst.

9/25/21 9:08am

UVA has 9 ranked finishes, 2 shared conference titles, and 1 division title

Kajdin

9/25/21 8:17am

Utah wasn’t a good program until Urban came along. A good coach can build a

9/25/21 8:22am

Bronco isn't Lavell or Urban he's good but hasn't shown that ability

Kajdin

9/25/21 8:26am

Uh yeah. That was the point of the OP. My point was that it doesn’t take

9/25/21 8:47am

LaVell and Urban aren’t just “good coaches.” They’re two of the best coaches ever

Alpi Gusto

9/25/21 10:02am

The former coach was 27-46. Before that? 59-53. It gets a little better then

P-Widdy

9/25/21 8:23am

I think he's above average at taking dumpster fire programs and making them at

Goliath

9/25/21 8:24am

He took UVA to an Orange Bowl and beat Virginia Tech.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 8:29am

If you can go to the Orange Bowl and not finish top 25 then the Orange Bowl

Odysseus

9/25/21 11:13am

Ranking doesn’t pay the school. Orange bowl does.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 11:19am

Sure, it’s better for a program. But it’s not much of an on-field accomplishment

Odysseus

9/25/21 11:27am

It’s not like saying bronco is better than sitake.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 11:36am

He’s not terrible. He’s mediocre

Odysseus

9/25/21 11:41am

If mediocre means going to bowl games often and making millions im jealous

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 1:50pm

Yes, I would rather be a mediocre D1 football coach than work my current day job

Odysseus

9/25/21 1:57pm

Stop. You have zero credential to call him mediocre.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 2:05pm

I don’t have the credentials to say Nathan Peterman is a bad NFL QB either but

Odysseus

9/25/21 2:28pm

There is no other catalyst right now other than losing recruits.

CougieMcCougFace

9/25/21 3:02pm

Noki minaj makes more.

9/25/21 2:13pm

I’m withholding my vote until after he plays against BYU

9/25/21 8:33am

Decent is how I would classify him.

9/25/21 8:38am

I think he’s an elite DC and slightly above average HC

KingDave

9/25/21 8:39am

Agree. Defensive genius. NFL caliber guy.

Backcountry

9/25/21 8:46am

So bizarre how everyone was so blind to his mediocrity while he was here. It was

Backcountry

9/25/21 8:44am

I’ve gone from many cbers thinking I was a jerk for calling for Bronco to be replaced since 2012, to still thinking

Zach Morris

9/25/21 8:45am

I feel ya. Ive taken a beating for a decade now for talking about Broncos

Backcountry

9/25/21 8:48am

I definitely fit the description of your last paragraph

Odysseus

9/25/21 8:54am

Its about time! Its been obvious for years.

9/25/21 9:04am

This

OldFogey

9/25/21 9:09am

He’s a great coach. But BYU was an especially good fit for his skill set.

9/25/21 9:44am

He isnt. We have years worth at 2 programs. He is average...

9/25/21 10:19am

Why are people hittin' on Bronco on these boards - he's done quite a job turning

BYUFootballRocks1

9/25/21 11:03am

It’s going to be rough sledding for him now that he can’t rely on the previous

Hutch65

9/25/21 11:05am

The roster for the orange bowl team a couple years ago was mainly his recruits

Food Snob

9/25/21 11:09am

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