Metrics work when everyone values metrics the same. When one outlier refuses eg

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Dec 1, 2021
11:12:39am

spoxjox All-American

to run up the score, the metrics have no way to account for that.

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spoxjox

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If you don't believe Indy Coug or the computer polls that indicate we're

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 9:31am

Human polls are about wins and losses, computer polls are about margin of victory

Indy Coug

12/1/21 9:34am

Especially based on our defensive metrics

BYU '80

12/1/21 9:36am

Yes, that's a big part of it. I'm not complaining about our ranking or our 10-2 season. I'm very happy with both.

Indy Coug

12/1/21 9:37am

Agreed

BYU '80

12/1/21 9:43am

Humans do consider MOV, just less. When we beat UCLA 59-0 that would have moved

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 9:40am

The point of the game is to win though. Our defensive scheme slows the game

FieroCoug

12/1/21 9:40am

With the same defensive scheme in 2020, our computer rankings were fantastic

Indy Coug

12/1/21 9:43am

Same scheme but in 2020, it was more successful. I doubt many on

here's to hoping

12/1/21 11:01am

We don’t blow teams out because the defense can’t get off the field.

BYU '80

12/1/21 9:43am

Metrics work when everyone values metrics the same. When one outlier refuses eg

spoxjox

12/1/21 11:12am

RE: If you don't believe Indy Coug or the computer polls that indicate we're

Pretorian

12/1/21 9:34am

Yes our defensive metrics drag us down in any computer poll.

kimdaddy35

12/1/21 9:39am

Dumb take, but thanks.

Benfica1

12/1/21 9:41am

"Coach, your stats aren't very good." - Coach:

slappy

12/1/21 9:43am

Yep. 10-2 is a great stat

Honor Code

12/1/21 11:16am

RE: If you don't believe Indy Coug or the computer polls that indicate we're

IceCreamButt

12/1/21 9:44am

10-2. That is really what matters.

Turnpike Lane

12/1/21 9:45am

Yep. You play the game with who you have and the conditions that exist.

Michicoug

12/1/21 10:23am

I doubted early in the season too and

VegasCoug

12/1/21 9:47am

Winning every game by 1 point is SUBSTANTIALLY better than losing every game by 1 point.

Ragnar Danneskjold

12/1/21 9:54am

would our computer rankings be better if we scored on the last drive of

Cougforgood

12/1/21 10:05am

That's a good point. Yes.

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 10:07am

I actually agree 100% however there are some big factors

CougaRR4L

12/1/21 11:47am

RE: I actually agree 100% however there are some big factors

Les IsMore

12/1/21 11:50am

Obviously not all wins are equal.

CougaRR4L

12/1/21 2:49pm

I think winning by one point should matter most, and each additional point

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 1:29pm

???? Uh, you do realize that we beat 2 ranked teams, beat more P5 teams than any previous season ever, and we

Rise Against

12/1/21 12:00pm

Cincy is over rated, Okie St is over rated.

byukarl

12/1/21 12:11pm

OK State is very good and not overrated.

Forzaitalia

12/1/21 12:35pm

Barely beat Boise by one point.. almost lost to Tulsa.

byukarl

12/1/21 12:47pm

Should have lost to Boise. Boise got jobbed.

No touching

12/1/21 1:12pm

OSU beat Boise. BYU didn’t. OSU is very good

Forzaitalia

12/2/21 12:08am

You can't overrate almost everybody. That's economically impossible.

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 1:15pm

WHO CARES

karatekid

12/1/21 12:18pm

It is our right as an almost-P5 to be overrated by humans vs computers!!

cougXor

12/1/21 1:11pm

You sound like the Ute fans saying we'd beat BYU right now

slatecoug

12/1/21 1:19pm

Last year BYU held 11 of 12 opponents below their season scoring offense averages. This year it was 8 of 12.

Spiff

12/1/21 1:25pm

Game Control is a garbage metric - only favors those who run up the score

Bleeding Blue

12/1/21 1:43pm

How many years have you heard that BYU has a weak strength of schedule

AltTabbins

12/1/21 2:20pm

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