Obviously not all wins are equal.

Dec 1, 2021
2:49:47pm

CougaRR4L All-American

I'm just pointing out that winning is hard and should be the most relevant factor. In comparing teams then it would be winning against others who are winning against who those teams are winning against etc.

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CougaRR4L

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If you don't believe Indy Coug or the computer polls that indicate we're

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 9:31am

Human polls are about wins and losses, computer polls are about margin of victory

Indy Coug

12/1/21 9:34am

Especially based on our defensive metrics

BYU '80

12/1/21 9:36am

Yes, that's a big part of it. I'm not complaining about our ranking or our 10-2 season. I'm very happy with both.

Indy Coug

12/1/21 9:37am

Agreed

BYU '80

12/1/21 9:43am

Humans do consider MOV, just less. When we beat UCLA 59-0 that would have moved

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 9:40am

The point of the game is to win though. Our defensive scheme slows the game

FieroCoug

12/1/21 9:40am

With the same defensive scheme in 2020, our computer rankings were fantastic

Indy Coug

12/1/21 9:43am

Same scheme but in 2020, it was more successful. I doubt many on

here's to hoping

12/1/21 11:01am

We don’t blow teams out because the defense can’t get off the field.

BYU '80

12/1/21 9:43am

Metrics work when everyone values metrics the same. When one outlier refuses eg

spoxjox

12/1/21 11:12am

RE: If you don't believe Indy Coug or the computer polls that indicate we're

Pretorian

12/1/21 9:34am

Yes our defensive metrics drag us down in any computer poll.

kimdaddy35

12/1/21 9:39am

Dumb take, but thanks.

Benfica1

12/1/21 9:41am

"Coach, your stats aren't very good." - Coach:

slappy

12/1/21 9:43am

Yep. 10-2 is a great stat

Honor Code

12/1/21 11:16am

RE: If you don't believe Indy Coug or the computer polls that indicate we're

IceCreamButt

12/1/21 9:44am

10-2. That is really what matters.

Turnpike Lane

12/1/21 9:45am

Yep. You play the game with who you have and the conditions that exist.

Michicoug

12/1/21 10:23am

I doubted early in the season too and

VegasCoug

12/1/21 9:47am

Winning every game by 1 point is SUBSTANTIALLY better than losing every game by 1 point.

Ragnar Danneskjold

12/1/21 9:54am

would our computer rankings be better if we scored on the last drive of

Cougforgood

12/1/21 10:05am

That's a good point. Yes.

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 10:07am

I actually agree 100% however there are some big factors

CougaRR4L

12/1/21 11:47am

RE: I actually agree 100% however there are some big factors

Les IsMore

12/1/21 11:50am

Obviously not all wins are equal.

CougaRR4L

12/1/21 2:49pm

I think winning by one point should matter most, and each additional point

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 1:29pm

???? Uh, you do realize that we beat 2 ranked teams, beat more P5 teams than any previous season ever, and we

Rise Against

12/1/21 12:00pm

Cincy is over rated, Okie St is over rated.

byukarl

12/1/21 12:11pm

OK State is very good and not overrated.

Forzaitalia

12/1/21 12:35pm

Barely beat Boise by one point.. almost lost to Tulsa.

byukarl

12/1/21 12:47pm

Should have lost to Boise. Boise got jobbed.

No touching

12/1/21 1:12pm

OSU beat Boise. BYU didn’t. OSU is very good

Forzaitalia

12/2/21 12:08am

You can't overrate almost everybody. That's economically impossible.

Genghis Spreads

12/1/21 1:15pm

WHO CARES

karatekid

12/1/21 12:18pm

It is our right as an almost-P5 to be overrated by humans vs computers!!

cougXor

12/1/21 1:11pm

You sound like the Ute fans saying we'd beat BYU right now

slatecoug

12/1/21 1:19pm

Last year BYU held 11 of 12 opponents below their season scoring offense averages. This year it was 8 of 12.

Spiff

12/1/21 1:25pm

Game Control is a garbage metric - only favors those who run up the score

Bleeding Blue

12/1/21 1:43pm

How many years have you heard that BYU has a weak strength of schedule

AltTabbins

12/1/21 2:20pm

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