Is this true at BYU?

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Dec 8, 2021
10:15:59am

desertcolt Redshirt Freshman

Is this true at BYU?

Emmert says there's no Olympic sport at any university that is cash flow positive.

I would challenge that somewhat looking at a few SEC baseball programs...
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanDFischer) December 8, 2021

https://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/status/1468628689000624128

I would think at least this year that women's soccer and maybe women's volleyball is in the black, and for most years I would think that men's volleyball comes close.

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Is this true at BYU?

desertcolt

12/8/21 10:15am

Womens soccer is probably cash flow +

Thrill

12/8/21 10:16am

Most attendees are ROC passes which allows them to get in free. That’s not a bad

12/8/21 10:30am

I firmly believe men's soccer would be cash positive if BYU would bring it back

teancum

12/8/21 11:45am

but outweighed by the women's sport opposite of it that will not be.

molodyets

12/8/21 11:55am

possibly, but a lot of athletic depts that are inferior to byu make it work

teancum

12/8/21 12:05pm

They also lose money, get subsidies and view it as marketing

molodyets

12/8/21 12:52pm

Women's beach volleyball (6 schollies) could be revenue positive. Add bowling

The Chelsea Dagger

12/8/21 12:53pm

I agree here....they would draw twice as many as the women team. I really enjoy

coot20

12/8/21 3:31pm

Why would you think that?

fattycoug

12/8/21 12:22pm

Sold out games, high viewership

teancum

12/8/21 2:14pm

small stadium (mostly ROC passes) and i doubt BYU soccer makes much money from

fattycoug

12/8/21 3:13pm

No

jlhazlewood

12/8/21 3:17pm

Men's volleyball might be because they only have 4 scholarships (maybe 4.5). Soccer and volleyball, no because they

molodyets

12/8/21 10:17am

4 scholarships? That’s it?

4thand19

12/8/21 10:24am

Yes. I don't remember what baseball gets - I think it's 11?

molodyets

12/8/21 10:37am

Womens soccer has 14. Limits listed here:

Thrill

12/8/21 10:35am

Some of those limits seem really arbitrary. Women's ice hockey gets 18? Wow!

lbmango

12/8/21 4:51pm

18 seems like a lot, but NCAA teams dress 22 players (19 skaters and 3 goalies)

The Chelsea Dagger

12/8/21 5:00pm

UCLA men's volleyball has costs of $1.5M. Would guess BYU is similar

krindorr

12/8/21 12:10pm

Emmert from the NCAA? someone shoot the NCAA and put them out of their misery.

kotacoug

12/8/21 10:18am

I wouldn't consider baseball or soccer to really be Olympic sports typically.

12/8/21 10:18am

When referring to college sports, Olympic sports usually means non-football

Doogal McCougar

12/8/21 10:24am

When you add up coaching costs, scholarships, and travel costs, I'd be surprised

Heath Squashwell

12/8/21 10:19am

It's absolutely true. And baseball isn't usually considered an "Olympic sport."

shoganai

12/8/21 10:25am

Isn't it A long ROW not Road in that phrase?

JayOwen

12/8/21 10:29am

Probably.

shoganai

12/8/21 10:30am

Hoeing a road would be way harder than hoeing a row, so it might be accurate

ryebrye

12/8/21 10:32am

No. Football, mens basketball and mens volleyball are revenue positive.

travelcoug

12/8/21 10:26am

By olympic sport, I think he is excluding both football and basketball.

kccougar

12/8/21 10:31am

And mens volleyball?

travelcoug

12/8/21 12:08pm

I thought Utah made money with their gymnastics team

ryebrye

12/8/21 10:33am

Probably made more than Basketball over last decade. Especially with 80 K's cost

Ycrazy

12/8/21 10:36am

And they don't need the Huntsman curtain for gymnastics meets.

kccougar

12/8/21 10:40am

Freeeeeeeee

travelcoug

12/8/21 12:08pm

I'd love to see women's BB team get more fans in the stands...

lbmango

12/8/21 12:15pm

If we were a top 10 yr in/out, we'd have fans.

jlhazlewood

12/8/21 4:59pm

Isn't that true of every sport at every school? If they just had more fans, they could be positive cash flow

krindorr

12/8/21 7:15pm

Mostly, true.

jlhazlewood

12/8/21 7:29pm

I have seen the graphics before. Football and men's basketball are obviously the

Baseball77

12/8/21 12:17pm

If South Field seated 10K then maybe.

wilsdad

12/8/21 12:52pm

It's true. Only men's basketball comes close to breaking even at BYU

StumptownCoug

12/8/21 1:08pm

There was a recent graphic that showed BYU baseball being revenue positive. I don't know if it was creative accounting,

Bob Vance

12/8/21 2:22pm

Women's volleyball probably isn't, at least based on U of Minnesota's numbers

The Chelsea Dagger

12/8/21 1:17pm

Overall, it's FB, MBB and then it depends on the school. Y makes $ on 2 sports.

jlhazlewood

12/8/21 2:14pm

Not true for several of the top wrestling programs.

goldy

12/8/21 3:22pm

Iowa + 200,000/yr

jlhazlewood

12/8/21 3:32pm

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