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Dec 8, 2021
11:33:03am

Abe Froman Intervention Needed

better than the P12 in football and WAY better in basketball.

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Abe Froman

Previous username: Rise and Shout
Bio page: Abe Froman
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Last login: May 2, 2024
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Wow! The new Big XII is going to be

MoodyBlueCoug All-American

12/8/21 11:19am

better than the P12 in football and WAY better in basketball.

Abe Froman

12/8/21 11:33am

The Big 12 is going to be one of the more competitive leagues IMO.

rtNelson

12/8/21 11:35am

I think 1 or 2 programs will rise up and fill the void of being the conference

Polemic

12/8/21 11:54am

I could see OSU, Baylor, BYU, & Cinci all cycling around each other.

BackPacker

12/8/21 12:52pm

Need to keep this up for the next few years and have a great TV contract next

Cougar TD

12/8/21 11:36am

Take away tOSU, and I would argue that the new BigXII will be the 2nd best CFB conference after the SEC as the teams

specsauce

12/8/21 12:19pm

This is true, IF a program steps up and becomes a "brand name"

reddead

12/8/21 1:03pm

Parity within the conference is fine if you are beating the other p5 conference

boctabulous

12/8/21 1:30pm

A conference frontrunner is absolutely essential

reddead

12/8/21 1:49pm

yep, parity in new Big12 would not be perceived well

Hill4Heisman

12/8/21 2:37pm

Naturally one will arise. It's a mistaken view of history to think that won't be the case

Bob Vance

12/8/21 2:54pm

The Pac-12 would beg to differ…

reddead

12/8/21 8:06pm

Who do we think the front runner will become? BYU, Baylor, OK State?

seacougar

12/8/21 3:10pm

Ok St has one of CFB’s best coaches; BU looks best positioned to control TX

reddead

12/8/21 8:11pm

Could be wrong but feels like Baylor or OSU

ApexCoug

12/9/21 8:36am

Interesting take...a few years ago if you said SEC people would have thought

AlternateShot

12/8/21 5:11pm

Maybe you can give me an example of a non brand name P5 going undefeated and

boctabulous

12/8/21 5:29pm

Undefeated is rare; better question would be how they compare 1-loss teams…

reddead

12/8/21 8:21pm

Good response. Thanks

boctabulous

12/8/21 10:37pm

The lack of "name brands" hurts. Who is the biggest name in the BIG XII?

Gorum the Old

12/8/21 3:13pm

I hear that, but I feel it is WAY overstated...

ApexCoug

12/8/21 3:25pm

The reality is that a conference can only have a couple of blue bloods.

Les IsMore

12/8/21 4:48pm

Very well said

reddead

12/8/21 8:24pm

Alabama wasn't a brand until they started winning incessantly. Miami was until

seacougar

12/9/21 12:06pm

BYU is going to be fine... No, there isn't a Texas or Oklahoma, but

canndyman

12/8/21 1:17pm

If CU is any indication of interest in the PAC, nobody cares about fb east of

AlternateShot

12/8/21 5:22pm

If the B12 is only 50% of the finances of the SEC, that will be far more money

spoxjox

12/8/21 6:53pm

pretty awesome - sounds like tv ratings won't be an issue

BYUFootballRocks1

12/8/21 1:42pm

The basketball should be #1 in KenPom almost every year. Number 2 in off year

BaylorBear

12/8/21 3:12pm

Big 12 will be the best basketball conference and the solid 3rd best football conference.

runningryan

12/8/21 3:53pm

ACC may take a dive in BB, too, with Coach K retiring.

Les IsMore

12/8/21 4:50pm

How many of those eyes on the B12 game were BYU fans, who now care about B12?

12/8/21 5:13pm

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