It's totally fine (preferable even) to not call anything when a couple of guys

Jan 21, 2022
2:49:22pm

Roko's Basilisk All-American

are aggressively wrestling on the ground for a rebound. It's not the ref's job to call something there in order to prevent the possibility of one of the involved players continuing to escalate things.

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Atiki was definitely in the wrong but it was the refs fault he gave the forearm

GlutealGuy

1/21/22 11:30am

I thought Atiki WAY over-reacted. Really uncalled for.

The Y's Insider

1/21/22 11:35am

This is a over-reaction, its uncalled for!

Beetdiggercoug

1/21/22 3:11pm

It was an uncalled for learning experience. Atiki will be fine.

rockyrd

1/21/22 3:27pm

Iwas surprised by how defensive the blow was in comparison to how it was being

fattycoug

1/21/22 11:36am

I think they were both going after each other

BYU Fan

1/21/22 11:38am

It was the follow through that got him ejected. He defends himself and then

Lance71

1/21/22 11:39am

meh, that's just a long armed guy creating space, IMO.

fattycoug

1/21/22 11:51am

Agree, but the result was a low cost lesson for the inexperienced developing Atiki.

roseyscenario

1/21/22 11:39am

the lesson is what, though? If a guy comes running at you to just stand there?

fattycoug

1/21/22 11:53am

If you forearm a guy in the head, regardless of provocation, it could cost your team the game. Guy made a move at Atiki,

roseyscenario

1/21/22 11:58am

i guess my main difference with people is that I don't really see it as a

fattycoug

1/21/22 1:34pm

What i saw is the guy pulled back in plenty of time for Atiki to drift away from the confrontation. Refs also must have

roseyscenario

1/21/22 1:58pm

We are discussing a basketball game and not a street fight.

hydrocoug

1/21/22 9:20pm

This is the right take, most clearly expressed.

roseyscenario

1/23/22 5:18pm

I respectfully disagree, for 2 reasons:

m1k3l33

1/21/22 11:48am

i agree that the dude may not have been coming at him. I think he may have been

fattycoug

1/21/22 11:56am

Fair or not, that will be called flagrant every time. Atiki has to learn from it and avoid that kind of contact.

roseyscenario

1/21/22 12:05pm

so, specifically, what should he have done? I, personally, would likely

fattycoug

1/21/22 1:38pm

There's plenty of times when guys get in each others faces during games

m1k3l33

1/21/22 1:42pm

he had barely just gotten on his own feet with a guy that was tangling with him

fattycoug

1/21/22 1:46pm

There was no need to defend by pushing. One can create space by giving ground.

hydrocoug

1/21/22 12:09pm

he was coming at him, what replay did you see.

Beetdiggercoug

1/21/22 3:12pm

Same one everyone else did, I assume, many times

m1k3l33

1/21/22 4:47pm

It was a shot to the head, but on a guy who was coming to get in his face

Tricky

1/21/22 12:10pm

Totally agree, he didn't throw a punch, he put up his arm. Yes, he hit the guy

Mitty

1/21/22 1:41pm

The ref was late indeed, but not the ref's fault that Atiki responded that way

The Dark Knight

1/21/22 11:40am

Obviously, but if you blow the whistle at first contact then you help cool two

GlutealGuy

1/21/22 11:43am

I thought it was garbage. If someone runs at me after we roll on the ground I'm

MormonThug

1/21/22 11:48am

It was a “back off” move on the aggressive side

Ten_Hour_Drives

1/21/22 11:55am

Disagree. No need for Atiki to give a forearm to the face.

LifeLongLakerFan

1/21/22 12:09pm

Just saying a whistle should’ve come before

GlutealGuy

1/21/22 12:13pm

Yeah, Atiki did the same thing on a box out free throw last week

stoils

1/21/22 12:36pm

Video for those who missed it

King of Y

1/21/22 12:39pm

Wow. This is a hilariously bad take.

Roko's Basilisk

1/21/22 1:33pm

Why? if there was a foul called then it stops the play and atiki doesn't swing

GlutealGuy

1/21/22 2:12pm

It was Atiki's fault he lost his temper and lashed out. The end.

Roko's Basilisk

1/21/22 2:29pm

But its the refs job to call fouls and when they don't it gets out of hand

GlutealGuy

1/21/22 2:37pm

It's totally fine (preferable even) to not call anything when a couple of guys

Roko's Basilisk

1/21/22 2:49pm

There's a difference between aggressively going after the rebound and what was

GlutealGuy

1/21/22 3:45pm

Did anyone else think about Pope asking Atiki if he was "ever going to back down from anyone" after the big win in SF.

Pollster

1/21/22 2:42pm

That is exactly what I thought about. I wonder how much of that is lost in

King of Y

1/21/22 4:19pm

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